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Old 11-07-2021, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Live Nation is getting a lawsuit! Movement!
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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People need to cut it out with the devil stuff. It just makes you look ignorant to start theorizing that "maybe the devil was there." This is a terrible tragedy, probably mostly caused by two things. The first is a 50,000 person crowd at a raucous music show and the second is a promoter that cares more about money than about setting up a safe environment.
Tik Tok is down right stupid as it relayed to coverage. And sadly people are believing what they hear
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:47 PM
 
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People need to cut it out with the devil stuff. It just makes you look ignorant to start theorizing that "maybe the devil was there." This is a terrible tragedy, probably mostly caused by two things. The first is a 50,000 person crowd at a raucous music show and the second is a promoter that cares more about money than about setting up a safe environment.
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Tik Tok is down right stupid as it relayed to coverage. And sadly people are believing what they hear
How can you deny the symbolism? He was literally wearing a shirt last night with demons entering another dimension:



The only way you cant see the symbolism is if you're blind or being willfully ignorant. I'll take what I'm seeing with my own eyes plus the eyewitness testimony of people that attended over folks who were nowhere near NRG that night.
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Old 11-07-2021, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Houston
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As people started getting crushed, concertgoers begged the concert production crew to stop the show. The crew did nothing. Here's one example:

https://twitter.com/Ashmelym/status/1457001681376452608

Also, pretty interesting symbolism they went with for the concert stage and prop design, given the tragedy:


Did you make that analogy or did the organizers?
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Old 11-07-2021, 08:40 PM
 
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How can you deny the symbolism? He was literally wearing a shirt last night with demons entering another dimension:

The only way you cant see the symbolism is if you're blind or being willfully ignorant. I'll take what I'm seeing with my own eyes plus the eyewitness testimony of people that attended over folks who were nowhere near NRG that night.
Do you feel the same way about the Republican symbol having upside stars
Just like the “Sigil of Baphomet” the symbol of the church of Satan

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Old 11-07-2021, 08:47 PM
 
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Do you feel the same way about the Republican symbol having upside stars
Just like the “Sigil of Baphomet” the symbol of the church of Satan
This is something I didn't notice before but now I won't forget it. They put symbols all around us. The folks who run this country and most of the entertainers out there aren't pure of heart IMO. So to answer your question, yeah I do feel the same way. How do you feel about it?
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Old 11-07-2021, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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You think The “stop the show” crowd was definitive of everyone there? They were tiny compared to the rest. As a matter of a fact, MANY of them were right next to the stop the show guys yelling “stfu”. The now famous video of a dude climbing a ladder to try to convince officials to take action only to get booed by the people around him who didn’t care. Were the show canceled, the angry majority would have squashed the vulnerable crowd wanting to take action.

This is a break down of the crowd during the se t.

The majority of the crowd was unaware of any chaos going on.

A few sections particularly left stage side experienced a crush.

WITHIN those sections experiencing the chaos, many either didn’t know how bad it was or didn’t care to help those who were suffocating.

If the stop the show crowd was definitive of the entire crowd, the problem wouldn’t have erupted to begin with.
Kylie says they would have stopped the concert.

She added: "I want to make it clear we weren’t aware of any fatalities until the news came out after the show and in no world would have continued filming or performing. I am sending my deepest condolences to all the families during this difficult time and will be praying for the healing of everyone who has been impacted."

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...houston-deaths
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Old 11-07-2021, 08:50 PM
 
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Kylie says they would have stopped the concert.

She added: "I want to make it clear we weren’t aware of any fatalities until the news came out after the show and in no world would have continued filming or performing. I am sending my deepest condolences to all the families during this difficult time and will be praying for the healing of everyone who has been impacted."

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...houston-deaths
Except multiple people went up to the folks filming telling them to stop because people weren't breathing.
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Old 11-07-2021, 08:53 PM
 
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Except multiple people went up to the folks filming telling them to stop because people weren't breathing.
I was posting to the point another poster was making that stopping the concert would have caused riots or more confusion and deaths.
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Old 11-07-2021, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Kylie says they would have stopped the concert.

She added: "I want to make it clear we weren’t aware of any fatalities until the news came out after the show and in no world would have continued filming or performing. I am sending my deepest condolences to all the families during this difficult time and will be praying for the healing of everyone who has been impacted."

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...houston-deaths
Kylie is telling people what they want to hear because she has to from a PR standpoint. If she were to say “we should have continued because the rioters…” the backlash would have been “You knew the angry crowd and you held the concert anyway??”. The fact you’re using a Kardashian as a source makes me ashamed. All 6+ billion people that didn’t attend the event don’t know what the crowd was like. im not sure why but something tells me you weren’t out there getting lit at Astrofest.

Did Travis, Drake and co handle the situation as they should have? Absolutely not. But you thinking canceling the concert would have prevented and people would have calmly left shows how much you don’t know about the Astroworld crowd. So does an earlier post that said “I don’t even know any of these except 2 people. Do rock festivals still stop here?” But hey. Just a thought.

From my knowledge and personal experience, I would have been terrified being in the middle of that during a cancellation reveal. Much worse outcome would have came.

It all comes down to improper planning. The situation should’ve have had to have been a “choose the lesser of two bad outcomes” type situation. It should have been properly set up in a crowd controlled environment and it wasn’t. And that’s why Live Nation is being sued.
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