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Originally Posted by Oldglory
I have to contribute thru my taxes my share of the $113 billion a year that they cost us. I have seen some of my family members and my fellow Americans replaced on their construction jobs by illegal aliens. We have all had to put up with them in our ER's which delays treatment for our own citizens and they don't pay for services rendered. My grandchildren are in classrooms with them which diminishes the quality of their education because they are overcrowded and most of them speak no English. I have friends who have been in auto accidents with them and of course they carry no insurance. I know of some who have had their SS numbers stolen by them and it screwed up their credit and caused them heartaches. Do you need any more examples? Shouldn't we all have an axe to grind with illegal aliens, including you?
It doesn't matter whether or not illegals commit fewer crimes than Americans (and of course those who claim that always blur the lines between legal and illegal by calling them all just plain ole immigrants) they have no legal right to be here, taking jobs, taxes and resources from Americans. We have enough of our own home grown criminals to deal with.
You're wrong, most illegals are border jumpers only 40% are visa over stayers who come here by plane or some other mode of transportation. We do need a better system to track them also. A ladder won't work on the double layered wall already proposed by congress.
Where U.S.-Mexico border fence is tall, it works
San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control : NPR |
Actually, and this is true overall, the reason we are upset mostly with illegals, other than the crimes they commit, is:
1.) If they got Amnesty, then most of them would vote Democrat. And that would make another Republican Party victory impossible. And thus, the entire country would be like California and the last 8 years would be a cakewalk to what they'd get.
2.) We did Amnesty before, all it did was get more illegals and no border wall, security. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
3.) We're losing jobs to them. And we just had a recession too. They're just adding insult to injury.
Our REAL enemies are:
1.) The politicians (from both parties) who support this so that they can get more power for their party and/or nice payoffs from the lobbyists.
2.) The greedy businessmen trying to cheapen the labor market by bringing in all these illegals by claiming fake shortages. (I have the same argument about the fake tech "shortages" and the H1B visa abuses like Disney, Southern California Edison, etc. Furthermore, BTW, some, including Disney, etc, are pushing both for Amnesty AND abusing the H1B visas. They'd abuse every sector except the top if they could get away with it.)
3.) The media that tries to hide the truth of what's going on from the public and trashes anyone that dares tell the truth.
4.) The hate America groups like La Raza going around calling us racist, suggesting that we not be allowed to fly or wear the American flag, yet they go and fly the Mexican flag in an effort to taunt us.
Let me explain it another way. Let's pretend the world is the Lion King. Obama, the Dems, the Republican Establishment, Big Business, Big Labor, etc are all Scar and the illegals are the Hyenas.
Even the lyrics from the song "Be Prepared" spell out what's REALLY going on:
Shenzi: Great idea! Who needs a king?
Shenzi and Banzai: No king! No king! La-la-la-la-la-la!
Scar: Idiots! There will be a king!
Banzai: Hey, but you said, uh...
Scar: I will be king! Stick with me, and you'll never go hungry again!
Shenzi and Banzai (Variously): Yay! All right! Long live the king!
Hyena Clan: Long live the king! Long live the king!
Hyena Clan: King, king, king, king, king, king!
It's great that we'll soon be connected
With a king who'll be all time adored
Scar: Of course, quid pro quo, you're expected
To take certain duties on board
The future is littered with prizes
And though I'm the main addressee
The point that I must emphasize is
You won't get a sniff without me!!!
Yes, the illegals get a better world than their own home country, but the REAL winners are the greedy businessmen, the union bosses, and the politicians.
Also, continuing the Lion King analogy, under "Scar's" rule the last 8 or more years, the lionesses (the taxpayers, etc) are being forced to overhunt to feed the Hyenas. Now, the Hyenas, other than with Simba and Nala, don't appear to have attacked the Pride Lands lions DIRECTLY, but their presence sure is making the place worse. Eventually, the place gets so bad that both the Hyenas and the Lionesses are hungry and the food is depleted and the land is going to seed. Scar just blows it off and tells the Hyenas "Eat Zazu."
When Simba shows up, rather than step down, Scar points at the Hyenas and says "There's a problem here. You see, they think that I should be King."
So, to make a final analogy, those who say "You can't deport them. They aren't hurting anyone." are basically, under Lion King logic, telling the Lionesses that they shouldn't deport the Hyenas, who are basically keeping Scar in power, as the Hyenas aren't "hurting them".
BTW, I think the Left for one WOULD double cross the illegals just like Scar called the Hyenas the "enemy" when it was convenient for him, if they thought that giving Amnesty would give the Right MORE power. Heck, they'd be blasting illegal immigration and suggesting guard towers, attack dogs, machine guns, barbed wire, etc at the border if they thought that the illegals would be helping the other side or would be a hangup to their agenda.
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