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Could be they have been influenced by our Statue of Liberty? She is leaving the light on for 'em and all ...
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Originally Posted by boneyard1962
No not really.
I guess it really just boils down to one's own humanity, in how they interpret the Statue of Liberty and what America means to them and how they wish for the u.s. to portray to others around the world in other countries.
"Connections drawn between the Statue of Liberty and immigration were not always positive. Nativists (Americans who opposed immigration) linked the Statue to immigration most starkly in political cartoons critiquing foreigners' threats to American liberties and values. They portrayed the monument as a symbol of a nation besieged by pollution, housing shortages, disease, and the onslaught of anarchists, communists, and other alleged subversives."
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I do know one thing, people wouldn't come here if they were not desperate to live. Because any one who knows anything about the u.s knows, this is not the land of opportunity that is being sold to the masses. Only those who are truly desperate are the only ones that would even think about it. A move to the u.s., is just geography.
I guess it really just boils down to one's own humanity, in how they interpret the Statue of Liberty and what America means to them and how they wish for the u.s. to portray to others around the world in other countries.
"Connections drawn between the Statue of Liberty and immigration were not always positive. Nativists (Americans who opposed immigration) linked the Statue to immigration most starkly in political cartoons critiquing foreigners' threats to American liberties and values. They portrayed the monument as a symbol of a nation besieged by pollution, housing shortages, disease, and the onslaught of anarchists, communists, and other alleged subversives."
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I do know one thing, people wouldn't come here if they were not desperate to live. Because any one who knows anything about the u.s knows, this is not the land of opportunity that is being sold to the masses. Only those who are truly desperate are the only ones that would even think about it. A move to the u.s., is just geography.
I applaud the sentiments in this post. I do not applaud the lack of practicality. The photograph on today's New York Times' front page (below at bottom of post) shows approximately 4200 people on the bridge connecting Guatemala to Mexico. The articles about this are heartrending, see Why this mom was hanging on a ladder under a bridge between Guatemala and Mexico.
The problem is that notwithstanding the noble sentiments, the migrants are going to have to be housed in some city, town or village. Some school district is going to have to build more classrooms, and hire more teachers. And these migrants are not, at least initially, going to have any money to pay any taxes, hospital bills or even for groceries. The way the U.S. works this comes first out of local budgets, with some state and/or federal help down the road. Someone has to cut the first checks.
The reason that outlaw sheriff in Arizona, Sheriff Arpaio, was trying to enforce Federal border laws (and was slapped down doing it) is that he didn't feel that the Arizona taxpayers and localities should have to pony up. Even under Obama the Congress wouldn't.
Are there solutions other than appeals to neighborliness and compassion?
Does that mean they're all still on their way here? I thought they were turned back by Mexican police? Women, children, young men, whomever all need to go back, we have too many illegals here already.
The Mexican police are standing down. Journalists took pictures of a mother with child that got tear gassed and the liberal Mexicans went crazy — really bad PR for politicians. And now masses of Mexican citizens are showing up in solidarity and cheering them on and supporting these criminal invaders on their march.
Trump tweeted that this is now a national emergency situation. Putting politics, morals, ideologies, etc aside, isn't this really not a big deal to stop? I mean I understand the numbers are way too much for the border patrol, but assuming the USA gets the military there in time, the caravan should be easily stopped.
Is my train of thought valid? Again I am not trying to debate right or wrong, assuming Trump really doesn't want this caravan inside the USA, it is a fairly simple problem to solve.
You can be quite sure that people all over Latin America are watching to see how this goes. There's a few million in Venezuela right now who are looking to flee.
I do know one thing, people wouldn't come here if they were not desperate to live. Because any one who knows anything about the u.s knows, this is not the land of opportunity that is being sold to the masses. Only those who are truly desperate are the only ones that would even think about it. A move to the u.s., is just geography.
Per the bolded --- Oh please! Just take a good look at these people. They are well dressed and none of them are starving. Do you really think that those who are coming here to cause harm (MS-13/ISIS) are "desperate to live"?
As for "just geography" --- more nonsense. If it were a matter of "just geography", then they would have asked Mexico for asylum. After all, Mexico, in the past, has given asylum to many. As for "just geography", why aren't they going to Costa Rica or Panama?
We all know the answer to these questions --- They want the US for all the freebies and a chance to drop an anchor baby.
Despite what you long for --- We can't take in the entire third world without descending into third world status ourselves. I know I want better than that for my descendants. Don't you want the same for yours?
I applaud the sentiments in this post. I do not applaud the lack of practicality. The photograph on today's New York Times' front page (below at bottom of post) shows approximately 4200 people on the bridge connecting Guatemala to Mexico. The articles about this are heartrending, see Why this mom was hanging on a ladder under a bridge between Guatemala and Mexico.
The problem is that notwithstanding the noble sentiments, the migrants are going to have to be housed in some city, town or village. Some school district is going to have to build more classrooms, and hire more teachers. And these migrants are not, at least initially, going to have any money to pay any taxes, hospital bills or even for groceries. The way the U.S. works this comes first out of local budgets, with some state and/or federal help down the road. Someone has to cut the first checks.
The reason that outlaw sheriff in Arizona, Sheriff Arpaio, was trying to enforce Federal border laws (and was slapped down doing it) is that he didn't feel that the Arizona taxpayers and localities should have to pony up. Even under Obama the Congress wouldn't.
Are there solutions other than appeals to neighborliness and compassion?
Build schools and hire more teachers? Sounds like creating jobs to me!
Per the bolded --- Oh please! Just take a good look at these people. They are well dressed and none of them are starving.
I said the same with the European migrant crisis. After walking for weeks through a half dozen countries, over mountains and through forests and rivers, they arrived in spotless clothes, phones fully charged and looking healthy as can be - including 70 year old women. The African migrants were all wearing new winter clothes. Seems very weird.
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