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Dude, ALL of my friends have different opinions than me. Many are more liberal, many are more conservative. I beleive that this makes our nation good, a diversity of opinion.
I was actually at an ANTI-ILLEGAL immigration rally just last year. Have my views changed, no...I was there serving as the bridge between anti-illegal and pro-illegal. Here's my article link.
Arrive legally In Order to Receive Rights - Daily Nexus (http://www.dailynexus.com/article.php?a=11644 - broken link)
David Horowitz has even featured another one of my articles. In fact, I was offered to cover events for Horowitz at UCSB.
The article was pointed more "right", the main reason was because that's what my target was. I'm no longer writing for an organization (my spelling and grammar are too horrible for that. My dad was actually a grammar teacher at UCR, yet I have bad grammar.) so I will actually add something to that article. More reform, not open borders, but an easier time entering. A comprimise.
This nation was built on comprimises (slavery notwithstanding) this is what makes our nation great. We have found our middle.
I just want all people living in our nation to be able to have the opportunity to rise. We claim to the be the beacon of liberal ideals and progressive thought. We claim to be the beacon of equality. Yet, our crime stats and economic stats paint a different tale.
My main point is that we should try to rectify the situation. We should try to mend the gap.
See, I realize the global gap since I've seen ALL socioeconomic spectrums.
I've met Netanyahu's top lawyers in the Swiss Alps when I was 13 (I threw up in the bathroom, since I was allergic to yams). My parent's got into a fight with the regional CEO of Air France at the Swiss Embassy (she owed my mom $1000 for gold we bought in Thailand). Last weekend I was in the Hollywood Hills at an ultra exclusive party (I was bored and didn't feel like doing coke, so I left.). At the same time, one of my aunts is a peasant farmer in the villages of West Africa. Currently, I live in suburban SoCal. Agrestic, Mayberry, Pleasantville...these are the images that come to mind when I describe where I live. Suburbia.
I just want to mend the gap a little. That's all.
I liked your article. I can appreciate your perspective too. As far as rational debate/discussion among friends goes, where i am from most people "say" they think like me yet none of them could say much to support it other than, Obama is a socialist and a Muslim. Which makes me cringe because it kills my legitimacy when people relate me to them.
I have not had the privilege to travel abroad as you have, i commend you and envy you. I hate that my scope may be somewhat more narrow, however my feelings are that the US as a whole may be better of than say Somalia, but given our immigration laws as a whole and our current recession, the thought of bring even MORE people i to care for and educate at the moment seems, for lack of better words, retarded.
Maybe its because I'm 24, but there is a part of me that believes that our generation can help build a better world, help the starving and diseased in Africa, end the suffering in south America, and so.
However, it may sound selfish or patriotic, depending on perspective, but I think we as Americans need to put America first and forsake all others until we ourselves get our "$hlT" straight. Feed OUR hungry, educate OUR natives, provide welfare to OUR people. We are the richest nation, but we can not afford to pay for/save the entire third world.
No need for rude posts. I assumed you would like to see what's really out there in these rallies that are very relevant to the subject of this thread. Thanks.
What I see is a bunch of people demanding amnesty for illegal aliens. This is something that I am against.
Obviously some people in the community think there is a problem with racial profiling; otherwise they wouldn't be marching against his practices.
As far as I'm concerned, the only people that have a problem with Sheriff Joe's policies on combating the illegal alien problem are the ones who have something or someone to hide.
the only people that have a problem with Sheriff Joe's policies on combating the illegal alien problem are the ones who have something or someone to hide.
So I guess the Goldwater Institute is run by illegal aliens and people hiding illegal aliens:
"MCSO falls seriously short of fulfilling its mission in all three areas. Although MCSO is adept at self-promotion and is an unquestionably “tough” law-enforcement agency, under its watch violent crime rates recently have soared, both in absolute terms and relative to other jurisdictions. It has diverted resources away from basic law-enforcement functions to highly publicized immigration sweeps, which are ineffective in policing illegal immigration and in reducing crime generally, and to extensive trips by MCSO officials to Honduras for purposes that are nebulous at best. Profligate spending on those diversions helped produce a financial crisis in late 2007 that forced MCSO to curtail or reduce important law-enforcement functions."
So I guess the Goldwater Institute is run by illegal aliens and people hiding illegal aliens:
"MCSO falls seriously short of fulfilling its mission in all three areas. Although MCSO is adept at self-promotion and is an unquestionably “tough†law-enforcement agency, under its watch violent crime rates recently have soared, both in absolute terms and relative to other jurisdictions. It has diverted resources away from basic law-enforcement functions to highly publicized immigration sweeps, which are ineffective in policing illegal immigration and in reducing crime generally, and to extensive trips by MCSO officials to Honduras for purposes that are nebulous at best. Profligate spending on those diversions helped produce a financial crisis in late 2007 that forced MCSO to curtail or reduce important law-enforcement functions."
I stand by what I said. To be honest I didn't read that whole thing but I've learned to take reports like that and anything the media puts out with a grain of salt. I would much prefer to take the word of people who are actually living it day to day such as AZBear who has stated that there are less illegals evident in Phoenix plus my own experiences of seeing less of the crap here in Tucson.
If Sheriff Joe and the MCSO were really as unsuccessful as that excerpt states I don't think we'd have so many of the illegal alien advocacy groups up in arms. I guess it all depends on your perspective, which leads me to reiterate my original comment.
If Sheriff Joe and the MCSO were really as unsuccessful as that excerpt states I don't think we'd have so many of the illegal alien advocacy groups up in arms. I guess it all depends on your perspective, which leads me to reiterate my original comment.
Also, please consider that many of the crimes that happen in the county are as a result of illegal immigraton: Human smuggling, Drug trafficing, Kidnappings, Gang wars and so on.
So, when MCSO is enforcing laws related to illegal immigration, they are also protecting the public from the above.
I stand by what I said. To be honest I didn't read that whole thing but I've learned to take reports like that and anything the media puts out with a grain of salt. I would much prefer to take the word of people who are actually living it day to day such as AZBear who has stated that there are less illegals evident in Phoenix plus my own experiences of seeing less of the crap here in Tucson.
If Sheriff Joe and the MCSO were really as unsuccessful as that excerpt states I don't think we'd have so many of the illegal alien advocacy groups up in arms. I guess it all depends on your perspective, which leads me to reiterate my original comment.
Yeah, it does depend on perspective: I happen to believe Illegals are leaving Arizona because there are no jobs, not because of Sherrif Joe.
I liked your article. I can appreciate your perspective too. As far as rational debate/discussion among friends goes, where i am from most people "say" they think like me yet none of them could say much to support it other than, Obama is a socialist and a Muslim. Which makes me cringe because it kills my legitimacy when people relate me to them.
I have not had the privilege to travel abroad as you have, i commend you and envy you. I hate that my scope may be somewhat more narrow, however my feelings are that the US as a whole may be better of than say Somalia, but given our immigration laws as a whole and our current recession, the thought of bring even MORE people i to care for and educate at the moment seems, for lack of better words, retarded.
Maybe its because I'm 24, but there is a part of me that believes that our generation can help build a better world, help the starving and diseased in Africa, end the suffering in south America, and so.
However, it may sound selfish or patriotic, depending on perspective, but I think we as Americans need to put America first and forsake all others until we ourselves get our "$hlT" straight. Feed OUR hungry, educate OUR natives, provide welfare to OUR people. We are the richest nation, but we can not afford to pay for/save the entire third world.
Young and wise!
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