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Old 12-19-2023, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I suspect you mean "Nobody knows anything."

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Old 12-19-2023, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Boston
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well why not stop the trying to time things , find a comfortable allocation and leave it alone . keep a small portion for fun trading and increase your gains big time with no effort at all
because in his case misplaced principle will result in unearned principal.
 
Old 12-19-2023, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Before today

Dia is +26.6%
Spy is + 27.57%
Qqq is + 44.8%

Since the thread was started

Todays performance is +0.68%, 0.61% and 0.51% respectively
Another big gain today, this is money we all realized and money he left on the table by being so conservative.

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Old 12-21-2023, 09:44 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Short sellers lost close to $178 billion in 2023

Did you help add to this loss?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/short...152135596.html
 
Old 12-21-2023, 11:33 AM
 
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Another big gain today, this is money we all realized and money he left on the table by being so conservative.
I'm a very conservative investor, but I can afford to be.
 
Old 12-21-2023, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Short sellers lost close to $178 billion in 2023

Did you help add to this loss?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/short...152135596.html

You know, that's an interesting question, because I had quite a few good short sales this year, posted in the trades area, but had a few bad ones also. Short selling didn't cost me any major money, however.
My cost was mainly opportunity cost by being too heavy in bonds.
 
Old 12-21-2023, 01:21 PM
 
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You know, that's an interesting question, because I had quite a few good short sales this year, posted in the trades area, but had a few bad ones also. Short selling didn't cost me any major money, however.
My cost was mainly opportunity cost by being too heavy in bonds.
The dabbling in the short selling game had opportunity cost associated with them as well, no different than the bonds
 
Old 12-22-2023, 06:51 AM
 
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Short selling and bearish calls are tricky. The market goes up the majority of the time over any period. It's like being at the plate facing a pitcher who throws strikes 2:1 vs balls. Can you get a walk? Sure. If your strategy is to get on base and score runs with walks, your going to fail.
 
Old 12-28-2023, 12:45 PM
 
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We all know a stuck clock is right twice a day. I called a market top back in February and it didn't happen but I'm calling another one right here. Huge amounts of bad news: inflation, interest rates going higher, "possible" return of lockdowns next year, political instability, restart of student loan repayments, consumer credit card debt at very high levels, world political uncertainty / war, extremely high housing costs, illegal aliens by the hundreds of thousands who are going to put pressure on wages and/or have to be taken care of, strike against auto companies..... on and on

DJIA is at 34,440 as I type this and could easily be below 30,000 by 1/1/24. Let's see what happens.
Prediction is 22% off as of today. So if you shorted you lost 22% plus missed the 22% gains.
 
Old 12-28-2023, 12:48 PM
 
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Prediction is 22% off as of today. So if you shorted you lost 22% plus missed the 22% gains.
Don’t forget the dividends and borrowing costs
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