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Old 08-29-2011, 08:23 AM
 
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That's why it's so ridiculous when people tell unemployed professionals, "Well, just take any job until you find something better..."
Employers won't hire someone who used to hold a "better" job.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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As the government cuts its size and lays off employees's, then the private sector will gain more workers further pushing down wages.

You assume that govt workers are qualified for jobs in the private sector. Most people choose govt work because it requires the least ability for the money being paid.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:38 AM
 
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You assume that govt workers are qualified for jobs in the private sector. Most people choose govt work because it requires the least ability for the money being paid.
I'm really not sure where you get this info from. Every Govt job I have reviewed seems to require qualifications that are pretty unbelievable.
Koale
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:47 AM
 
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I'm really not sure where you get this info from. Every Govt job I have reviewed seems to require qualifications that are pretty unbelievable.
Koale
That's just it; the government pays more for more advanced education, yet private industry just cares about ability and views advanced education as a negative not a positive. They also don't pay more for someone in the same job with a BA vs. a PhD. No need to, both do the same job. The government would pay more (look at teacher pay) which is quite obnoxious and wasteful.
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:58 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by neekah18
Moral of the story is take what you need when you need it and quit when you get a better offer.
Tober138"This is a primary reason why many places will not hire people who seem "overqualified".
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In 2011, employers are being insane. Leaving when something better comes along depends largely on an economic recovery. That will never happen. This is the new "normal".
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Tober138"This is a primary reason why many places will not hire people who seem "overqualified".
Which is dumb. They have to face the fact that any of their employees will quit for a better offer especially their most valuable employees who they have been treating like crap and piling the work of all the people they laid off on with no raise and cut benefits.

Most likely the second job hiring picks up there will be a tsunami of pissed off workers dumping their employers.
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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Which is dumb. They have to face the fact that any of their employees will quit for a better offer especially their most valuable employees who they have been treating like crap and piling the work of all the people they laid off on with no raise and cut benefits.

True - people leave jobs for greener pastures all of the time (I've done it myself). But smart employers want to minimize attrition as much as possible, because high turnover rates can cost the company more money over time. Part of keeping attrition rates down is to attempt to hire candidates who seem more likely to stay and grow with the company and to not hire those who are more obviously going to be looking for a better job on the same day that they start.

Someone applying for a job at the same level as their current / most recent job (or a step above) is more likely going to stay there for a while. Someone taking several steps down the ladder and a significant pay cut for a job is more likley to be actively looking for the first opportunity to bolt.

Also, not all companies / employers treat their employees like crap.
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Woodinville
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True - people leave jobs for greener pastures all of the time (I've done it myself). But smart employers want to minimize attrition as much as possible, because high turnover rates can cost the company more money over time. Part of keeping attrition rates down is to attempt to hire candidates who seem more likely to stay and grow with the company and to not hire those who are more obviously going to be looking for a better job on the same day that they start.

Someone applying for a job at the same level as their current / most recent job (or a step above) is more likely going to stay there for a while. Someone taking several steps down the ladder and a significant pay cut for a job is more likley to be actively looking for the first opportunity to bolt.

Also, not all companies / employers treat their employees like crap.
When the job market favors employers there is going to be high turnover. When the company squeezes every last drop out of the employee while paying less, of course the employee is always going to have their eyes out for a new job. In this scenario, Bob will leave a $45k job for a $50k job the first chance he gets.

When the job market favors employees there's less likely to be high turnover. When companies are directly competing for talent, they are going to be offering better compensation to keep their employees from getting "stolen" by better offers. In this scenario, Bob is not likely to leave his $65k job for a $66k job.

At least that's my theory I just made up 3 minutes ago.
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Old 08-29-2011, 05:55 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Tober138, Risk of losing employees-LOL-it will never be 2006 again. This is the new normal, voluntary attrition at rock bottom levels.
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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this is crazy.

they had a sign the other day at books-a-million. hiring, exp only need apply.
so i asked, is that just retail?
no, book store exp only.
what about library exp?
no, book store only!

so, these companies these days seem to be willing to only hire the person who they are replacing!
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