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Old 03-16-2013, 05:45 PM
 
Location: NW Philly Burbs
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That's a good thing to learn how to deflect during an interview, unless you are trying to make a lateral move for a similar salary but better company/job.
Good for anyone to learn.

But I can't get to the interview stage unless I "confess all" in the application process. I was filling out an online ap the other day that requested beginning and ending salaries for EACH of my past positions. Again, what I earned at a prior job (especially if it was a number of years ago) has NO bearing on what I should earn for the job that I'm applying to.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:55 PM
 
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Wow. There's a way to correct or edit a THREAD TITLE.
I didn't know you could do that.
How do you do it?
You have to ask the mod. I would have done it originally, but didn't know the grammar trolls would be out in full force.

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Old 03-16-2013, 05:56 PM
 
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Regarding the part of your post I changed to red: Why would you not pay for the talent the company needs? Seems like the company gets what they pay for using that reasoning. Of course, the candidate must be worth the price, which I believe I am.
Let me clarify. I had a few times that I found a terrific candidate in terms of education and personality (Sales positions) but they had zero experience in a complex field. I wasn't about to pay them what I would have offered a rainmaker who would have come in with pre-existing contacts and relationships. I wanted the people I hired, but wasn't about to pay them $80K a year plus bonuses while they learned the business for their first two years.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:58 PM
 
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Good for anyone to learn.

But I can't get to the interview stage unless I "confess all" in the application process. I was filling out an online ap the other day that requested beginning and ending salaries for EACH of my past positions. Again, what I earned at a prior job (especially if it was a number of years ago) has NO bearing on what I should earn for the job that I'm applying to.
Have you tried 0000.00 with a note in the comments section that previous salaries were considered by previous employers to be proprietary and you weren't at liberty to divulge?
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Old 03-16-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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There are similar jobs in the medical devices sales field, that's what you should have been looking at.
If you look at my first post, that's kind of what I did. I built up quite a few contacts with medical sales reps and managers in the past few years Have you had extensive experience in medical sales or healthcare? You're looking at Simply Hired, which gives some absolutely ridiculous estimates on salaries for respiratory therapist (way too high).

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Starting salary? No. That's after they've been in the industry for awhile. Entry level is $59K. Entry Level - Clinical Medical Device Sales Salaries | Simply Hired
You are also looking a medical sales in general. There are different levels of medical devices. If you are selling apnea monitors or pulse oximeters. You are going to be at the lower end of the spectrum. This is a surgical implant which requires the clinical specialist be present at every surgery, any kind of electrode replacement, and sometimes programming of the device.

The job posting required either an RN or RRT. I've been at this for five years. The median salary for an RRT according to bls statistics is around 54,000k. Not too many of them are traveling, and I can tell you that the ones that do are at a premium and usually get living expenses and housing allowances. I can guarantee you that less than one percent have any involvement in assisting with surgical implants.

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You would have been part of the sales team, there is no getting around that.
I was technically part of the sales team at my previous job and made 25k more base salary than the sales reps. Why? Because I'm a licensed clinician. I also hold a higher degree than what is required for my profession, and which will probably require a BS within the next decade.
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Old 03-16-2013, 06:38 PM
 
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If you look at my first post, that's kind of what I did. I built up quite a few contacts with medical sales reps and managers in the past few years Have you had extensive experience in medical sales or healthcare? You're looking at Simply Hired, which gives some absolutely ridiculous estimates on salaries for respiratory therapist (way too high).


You are also looking a medical sales in general. There are different levels of medical devices. If you are selling apnea monitors or pulse oximeters. You are going to be at the lower end of the spectrum. This is a surgical implant which requires the clinical specialist be present at every surgery, any kind of electrode replacement, and sometimes programming of the device.

The job posting required either an RN or RRT. I've been at this for five years. The median salary for an RRT according to bls statistics is around 54,000k. Not too many of them are traveling, and I can tell you that the ones that do are at a premium and usually get living expenses and housing allowances. I can guarantee you that less than one percent have any involvement in assisting with surgical implants.


I was technically part of the sales team at my previous job and made 25k more base salary than the sales reps. Why? Because I'm a licensed clinician. I also hold a higher degree than what is required for my profession, and which will probably require a BS within the next decade.
You skipped the rest (and possibly most pertinent parts) of my post, but that's OK. You didn't get the job. it's over, time to move on.
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:21 PM
 
Location: NW Philly Burbs
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Have you tried 0000.00 with a note in the comments section that previous salaries were considered by previous employers to be proprietary and you weren't at liberty to divulge?
Can't. Won't take it. Besides, zero would boot me out an any "range". It's not that I'm not at liberty to divulge, it's none of their business. As is my driver's license number, which they also wanted -- before they knew if I was even remotely qualified! Nuh uh. No way. I deleted the ap before finishing it.
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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Can't. Won't take it. Besides, zero would boot me out an any "range". It's not that I'm not at liberty to divulge, it's none of their business. As is my driver's license number, which they also wanted -- before they knew if I was even remotely qualified! Nuh uh. No way. I deleted the ap before finishing it.
Gotcha. I wouldn't give a DL number either. Until there is an offer pending all the checks, then I have no problem with it. My current employer ran my DL, credit, and criminal, it didn't bother me at all. (Credit because I sometimes have $350K of their merchandise in my possession as well as company credit card. ) They didn't ask for any of it--including my social until after I had a written offer.
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:39 PM
 
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I gave them my current pay in the application process. ....
I usually put a period in the spot that asks for salary, if the applicant allows it (most do). Or fill it with blanks. or "N/A". Or To Be Discussed. or Varies. Or put 'annual salary' or "hourly".

Keep in mind they often find out your current pay in a background check. So don't lie. But leaving it blank isn't a lie.
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:56 PM
 
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Have you tried 0000.00 with a note in the comments section that previous salaries were considered by previous employers to be proprietary and you weren't at liberty to divulge?
And I think alot of people would be surprised that this clause is actually buried in the employee manual somewhere and this is actually the truth .
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