Unpopular Man vs. an Unpopular Party (Frankfort: bill, education, money)

[otterhere]

Originally Posted by CraigCreek

Do you know any members of the Beshear family personally? I do, and what you wrote above is way off the mark.

You do? That explains a lot!

[hogsrus]

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Pl...ekqgHEvcQo_Ocg

Personally, I can't think of enough adjectives to describe how horrible this is but, if you are into killing babies, I guess a celebration is in order.


What a shame.....just so the teachers could get their usual and customary raise.


Again, be careful what you ask for...you just might get it...

[hogsrus]

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/La...567555981.html


After witnessing literally Billion of dollars funneled into "Education" in this Great State over the last 50+ years, I got a question for all you "Educated" people....when can we expect to see a return on our investment?

Again, be careful what you ask for....you just might get it!

[Mr. In-Between]

Originally Posted by otterhere

"Carpetbagger." Here we go again! Realize that this is just as ignorant and offensive a slur to a northerner as a racial slur is to a minority. Realize how it makes people from the north feel. Also realize how it makes you look. Enjoy your "home boy."

1. I am from the north. It doesn't make me feel all that badly, but thanks for looking out for me!

2. If you know anything about Bevin and his history, it is a perfectly accurate term in this context. I'm not shy about admitting that there are a lot of things I don't like about Kentucky, but if there's one thing I hate ten times more than all those things put together, it's people from wealthier and better educated parts of the country swooping down here to take advantage of the decent people who live here and whose families have been here for generations. IMO, 90% of the things that are wrong with Kentucky are a direct result of people like that. The people of this state have been getting shafted and lied to by outsiders ever since the first shovelful of coal was dug out of the ground, and I hate it.

3. I can't think of a single, solitary reason I should give a hoot in hell who chooses to be offended by any of that.

[CraigCreek]

Originally Posted by otterhere

You do? That explains a lot!

Yes, I was in high school with Jane Beshear and had a couple of classes during my freshman and sophomore year at UK with Steve Beshear. I don't think Jane and Steve had met each other then (no, I didn't introduce them! Jane was a couple of years his and my junior, so would still have been in high school at the time I met Steve).

Nice folks. I was not besties with either of them, but remember them both as being pleasant, courteous, and intelligent. Those are seldom qualities that change with maturity.

But do tell me, what does this chance acquaintance way back when "explain"?

[CraigCreek]

Originally Posted by Mr. In-Between

1. I am from the north. It doesn't make me feel all that badly, but thanks for looking out for me!

2. If you know anything about Bevin and his history, it is a perfectly accurate term in this context. I'm not shy about admitting that there are a lot of things I don't like about Kentucky, but if there's one thing I hate ten times more than all those things put together, it's people from wealthier and better educated parts of the country swooping down here to take advantage of the decent people who live here and whose families have been here for generations. IMO, 90% of the things that are wrong with Kentucky are a direct result of people like that. The people of this state have been getting shafted and lied to by outsiders ever since the first shovelful of coal was dug out of the ground, and I hate it.

3. I can't think of a single, solitary reason I should give a hoot in hell who chooses to be offended by any of that.

This.

Sorry, can't rep you right now, but your post is right on the mark.

[Crazee Cat Lady]

Originally Posted by Mr. In-Between

1. I am from the north. It doesn't make me feel all that badly, but thanks for looking out for me!

2. If you know anything about Bevin and his history, it is a perfectly accurate term in this context. I'm not shy about admitting that there are a lot of things I don't like about Kentucky, but if there's one thing I hate ten times more than all those things put together, it's people from wealthier and better educated parts of the country swooping down here to take advantage of the decent people who live here and whose families have been here for generations. IMO, 90% of the things that are wrong with Kentucky are a direct result of people like that. The people of this state have been getting shafted and lied to by outsiders ever since the first shovelful of coal was dug out of the ground, and I hate it.

3. I can't think of a single, solitary reason I should give a hoot in hell who chooses to be offended by any of that.

We don't often see eye to eye, but that was well said.

[Oldhag1]

Originally Posted by Mr. In-Between

1. I am from the north. It doesn't make me feel all that badly, but thanks for looking out for me!

2. If you know anything about Bevin and his history, it is a perfectly accurate term in this context. I'm not shy about admitting that there are a lot of things I don't like about Kentucky, but if there's one thing I hate ten times more than all those things put together, it's people from wealthier and better educated parts of the country swooping down here to take advantage of the decent people who live here and whose families have been here for generations. IMO, 90% of the things that are wrong with Kentucky are a direct result of people like that. The people of this state have been getting shafted and lied to by outsiders ever since the first shovelful of coal was dug out of the ground, and I hate it.

3. I can't think of a single, solitary reason I should give a hoot in hell who chooses to be offended by any of that.

Amen to that.

[Mr. In-Between]

Originally Posted by CraigCreek

This.

Sorry, can't rep you right now, but your post is right on the mark.

Craig, thank you very much for saying that. It means a lot. I know we don't always agree, but I always have a great deal of respect for you and your positions. I also know that I don't win any friends here because there are so many things I don't like about Kentucky, but I draw a clear distinction between the way of life here and the people who live here.

It just makes my blood boil to see how the wealthy and the powerful drain every drop of blood they can get out of the people who live here, and then just waltz away and leave the people they took advantage of to clean up the mess - generation after generation after generation. The people of this state deserve one hell of a lot better than what they've been getting since the Eastern bankers and industrialists first figured out there was money to be made here.

[CraigCreek]

Originally Posted by Mr. In-Between

Craig, thank you very much for saying that. It means a lot. I know we don't always agree, but I always have a great deal of respect for you and your positions. I also know that I don't win any friends here because there are so many things I don't like about Kentucky, but I draw a clear distinction between the way of life here and the people who live here.

It just makes my blood boil to see how the wealthy and the powerful drain every drop of blood they can get out of the people who live here, and then just waltz away and leave the people they took advantage of to clean up the mess - generation after generation after generation. The people of this state deserve one hell of a lot better than what they've been getting since the Eastern bankers and industrialists first figured out there was money to be made here.

Shoot, I STILL can't rep you!

Thanks for the kind words, however. It's good to see eye to eye on this topic, even if not others.

Kentucky has been historically treated like a colony when it comes to privately owned extractive industries, and its people have been left to bear the resulting burdens of a ravaged environment and depleted economy.

Sadly, the "robber barons" were not just a late 19th century phenomenon. Their descendants are alive and well and still robbers.