[airics]

Originally Posted by EA

1,000 is pretty steep. Quick google shows .52 cent gas tax in NV. So if I drove 30k miles last year, triple the norm, I'd pay about 780 bucks in total gas tax assuming 20mpg. And only part of that would even go to roads like it should.
So to charge ev owners 1,000 is absurd. I can see charging whatever the gas tax is in their state x 600 (12,000 miles divided by 20mpg)

The article is skewed in my opinion. The woman who is interviewed is upset with the $1000 tax on her Tesla S. New, the car is 80k+. So registration in Vegas would top $1000 anyway. If you’re driving that expensive of a car, you should be able to afford the tax.

[lvmensch]

As EA suggests a per mile fee would make more sense. Perhaps graduated by the weight of the vehicle.

[airics]

I think auto insurance should be paid via a fuel tax per gallon. The more you drive, the more you pay

[Commander666]

Originally Posted by airics

The article is skewed in my opinion. The woman who is interviewed is upset with the $1000 tax on her Tesla S. New, the car is 80k+. So registration in Vegas would top $1000 anyway. If you’re driving that expensive of a car, you should be able to afford the tax.

Tesla was subsidized on both ends by the govt already.

[EA]

Originally Posted by airics

I think auto insurance should be paid via a fuel tax per gallon. The more you drive, the more you pay

I quite like how Australia (and probably a few other places) do it. It's tied to your tag. You pay for 6 months at a time and it's included with your tag. They also pay out decently unlike insurance here.

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

The flow of retirees to Las Vegas has gone on forever. We being an example. LV offers better housing at very much lower cost and the escape from the CA income tax.

This is exactly right I think, and what makes me question so much of what this thread is about.

The facts are that housing cost in Las Vegas is so much cheaper than CA. And no state income tax is huge. I project to pay $4-5.5k per year in state income tax in CA in retirement. At current pricing, I can buy a house in Las Vegas on a mortgage that will be about half what I currently pay in rent in Los Angeles. A townhome would be a lower payment than I pay in rent. I don’t even know why the thread starts off addressing $400k homes. I have no intent to spend my retirement cleaning a 4,000 sq ft home. Whatever it is, the combination of California state income tax, housing costs, and property tax are a huge expense that even on a pretty decent retirement income would effectively crush my standard of living. It remains way less expensive to retire in Las Vegas(or for that matter Arizona or Texas but the wife loves Las Vegas, hates Phoenix, won’t live in a humid place, and won’t live in anything but a big city.).

[EA]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

This is exactly right I think, and what makes me question so much of what this thread is about.

The facts are that housing cost in Las Vegas is so much cheaper than CA. And no state income tax is huge. I project to pay $4-5.5k per year in state tax in CA in retirement. At current pricing, I can buy a house in Las Vegas on a mortgage that will be about half what I currently pay in rent in Los Angeles. A townhome would be a lower payment than I pay in rent. I don’t even know why the thread starts off addressing $500k homes. I have no intent to spend my retirement cleaning a 4,000 sq ft home. Whatever it is, the combination of California state income tax, housing costs, and property tax are a huge expense that even on a pretty decent retirement income would effectively crush my standard of living. It remains way less expensive to retire in Las Vegas(or for that matter Arizona or Texas but the wife loves Las Vegas, hates Phoenix, won’t live in a humid place, and won’t live in anything but a big city.).

Problem is smaller cheaper homes are hard to find. Every new house is a gigantic monstrosity.
My house is on the smaller side and it's too big.

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by EA

Problem is smaller cheaper homes are hard to find. Every new house is a gigantic monstrosity.
My house is on the smaller side and it's too big.

I don’t need a new build in a new build community. Frankly I hate Irvine here in So Cal. I like parts of Henderson and also between Rancho and Rainbow.

[Commander666]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

I don’t need a new build in a new build community. Frankly I hate Irvine here in So Cal. I like parts of Henderson and also between Rancho and Rainbow.

If you hate Irvine you must really hate sumnerlin, a bad knock off of Irvine.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by EA

Problem is smaller cheaper homes are hard to find. Every new house is a gigantic monstrosity.
My house is on the smaller side and it's too big.

Not true. Small houses are easily found especially for the mature. Well over 2/3 of Sun City Summerlin and Anthem are less than 2000SF. The going standard is two BR, two bath, two car garage.
And there are lots of 3 BR 2.5 bath two stories around 1500SF.