$15,600 for illegals!!! (Brighton, Hewlett, Madison: transfer, luxury, pharmacy)
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I think there is a misunderstanding, although illegal; to qualify, they had to show paystubs, W2, that they worked and paid taxes for the full amount of $15.6k.
This is how NY is deciding to allocate the funds that the future will pay for in higher taxes. Regardless, they drive a part of the economy and small businesses with their spending. They don't have an option to save, and likely live paycheck to paycheck. That being said, once they start spending more local business benefit, small business owners hire staff again, the new employees spend and more taxes get paid back into the system.
You have to start from somewhere, otherwise; what is the better alternative? Not give, and hope the economy recovers naturally?
Who is eligible?
To get payments from the Excluded Workers Fund:
You must be a current resident of New York and have lived here before March 27, 2020. (More on the documents you’ll need further down.)
You must have lost part or all of your income after February 2020 because of COVID-19. That includes losing your job, losing hours or becoming unable to work because of the virus. You’re also eligible if the person who was the breadwinner for your family died or became disabled due to COVID.
You must not have been eligible for other unemployment benefits or any federal COVID-related income relief.
You must have personally earned less than $26,208 total in the past year.
[i]Note: You can qualify for both the Excluded Workers Fund and the state’s newly created rent relief program.
How much money can you get?
There are two tiers to the program that pay out different amounts.
If you can:
Prove your New York residency and
Show you filed your taxes for the 2018, 2019 or 2020 tax year or prove lost income caused by the pandemic
You will be able to receive up to $15,600 (minus $780 for taxes). That comes to nearly $300 a week for the last year.
If you don’t have tax returns and paperwork showing loss of income, you might still be eligible for up to $3,200 (minus $160 removed for taxes).
Note: How these benefits will be paid out is still being determined.
Here’s the documents you need to qualify
WARNING: There’s a point system involved and it could get complicated. So stick with us...
Step 1: You need to prove your identity.
To do so, you’ll need documents that will add up to four “points.”
If you have:
A non-expired state driver’s license or ID card or an IDNYC card or a U.S. passport, these are each worth four points. So that’s it. You got it. You can move to step 2.
If you don’t, we’ll have to do a little math. You can use several other documents that will add up to four points. So, if you have any of these, match them up with the corresponding points until you get to four.
Three Points
A non-expired foreign passport
Two Points
A photo ID card issued by the New York Office of Mental Health
One point
Marriage certificate
Divorce decree
Birth certificate from a foreign country
Non-expired NYC Parks and Recreation membership card
Foreign-issued ID card, such as a consulate ID card
A diploma or transcript from a high school or college
The state Department of Labor, which will run the program and come up with the application form, could also add more documents to broaden the pool. The agency will also assign points to these additional documents, but none will be worth as much as four points.
Step 2: You need to prove you currently live in New York and were living here before March 27, 2020. You can use a non-expired New York driver’s license, ID card or IDNYC card to show that.
If you don’t have these documents, there are other ways to prove you’re a New Yorker.
Here’s what you’ll need: Two of the following documents — one dated before March 27, 2020, and another dated no earlier than 30 days before the law goes into effect (which could be very soon).
A utility bill
A bank or credit card statement
A lease, mortgage statement or property tax statement
A letter addressed to the applicant from the New York City Housing Authority
A letter from a homeless shelter indicating that the applicant currently lives there
A letter from a nonprofit organization that provides homeless services
Any other document the DOL commissioner deems acceptable.
Good news is you can submit the same documents to establish your identity and residency, but at least one of them has to have your date of birth and a photo. Any document that isn’t in English should also be accompanied by a certified English translation.
But wait…there’s more. What else do you need to qualify?
To establish work-related eligibility and to qualify for up to $15,600, applicants have to submit proof they filed tax returns for either the 2018, 2019 or 2020 tax years using a valid Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN).
If you don’t have your tax returns, you can establish eligibility with these documents:
A letter from an employer stating the dates of employment and why you’re no longer employed
At least six weeks of pay stubs or wage statements from a six-month period prior to the date you certify you became eligible for these benefits
A W-2 or 1099 from the 2019 or 2020 tax year showing wages or income
A Wage Theft Prevention Act notice given by the employer at the time of hiring showing the applicant was employed in the six months before becoming eligible for the benefits
As with the other criteria, the commissioner of the Department of Labor may establish “alternative documents” that show workers were employed and qualify for the benefits.
What if you don’t have any of those?
If you can’t demonstrate proof of work-related eligibility, hope isn’t lost. You still might qualify for aid through Tier Two, which distributes up to $3,200. You’ll still need to prove your identity and New York residency, but the other requirements for the second tier are still being determined.
The commissioner of labor will have to come up with a point system for documents — such as pay stubs, wage statements, wage notices, bank statements or receipts showing a pattern of payments or deposits — to determine work-related eligibility.
When can you get the money?
That’s still being decided.
The state Department of Labor has to come up with a process for distributing the funds — and state Attorney General Letitia James will have to approve that process before money goes out the door due to a measure tucked into the law to prevent “fraud and abuse.”
That means it could be months before a system is in place to distribute the money. But that leaves applicants time to gather the paperwork they need and to visit consulates to get up-to-date documents.
We’ll let you know when we know more.
Can Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) get your documents?
The law specifically states that any person or entity who receives or has access to the records has to certify that the information will not be used for civil immigration purposes. They also must not disclose the information to any agency that enforces immigration law, like ICE or Customs and Border Protection. Violation of that is a class A misdemeanor.
... My issue is LAWS are being broken, and things should be done PROPPERLY.
Hilarious... I wonder what it's like to be this clueless like people actually live every aspect of their lives to the letter of the law and "properly". Who even talks like that with a straight face? It's so detached from reality.
The fact remains that if this undocumented labor pool didn't exist, we would be paying through the nose when we eat out at restaurants, and when we have our lawns mowed, our children and elderly family members cared for, our homes remodeled and repaired, and our houses cleaned. But that's another issue.
What I wonder is whether this government help to the undocumented labor pool could be handled differently. My concern is that many undocumented workers work and send their paychecks home to their families in Central America. Will they be sending $15k home, instead of spending it on local businesses? Couldn't the government, instead of giving them a check, give them an account they can draw from when they present verifiable expenditures (rent, food, utilities, etc.) that total the money amount that they are granted?
If using licensed trades and HHAs for one's home or loved ones, the fees for service will include the licensing and insurance the local &/or County &/or State government requires. If paying a pittance at a business which is exploiting illegal labor, the employer is circumventing insurance and state requirements -- in other words, committing fraud. Legitimate businesses wind up paying higher premiums and surcharges because of unscrupulous employers charging a cheap price because they're paying "undocumented labor" off the books.
The government has to help end exploitation of this "labor pool" by vigorously prosecuting employers who hire illegal labor to begin with. Homeowners, diners, people in need of HHAs, etc., need to concern themselves with whether or not they are complicit in the exploitation of these workers. If a person is saving money using illegal labor, they're as guilty as the employer.
Creating a cash benefit for illegal immigrants ensures a cheaper labor pool and more competition for naturalized or US born workers who do not have an extensive skill set. Why should we be encouraging more people to enter illegally? Shouldn't we focus on our own unemployed? $2.1B placed into career training for at risk youth, or unskilled (USC or naturalized) labor, would be more beneficial to us than $2.1B to illegal immigrants which will gradually make its way out of the US.
"Legal" is a formality. Just because they are here illegally doesn't mean they can't work hard - it is not mutually exclusive. I have worked with illegals immigrants that have injured themselves and won't take a day off because they fear they will lose their jobs. They are exploited for their labor with little to no recourse, so that we can enjoy the "American" way of life.
The American way of life? We're putting up signs in Spanish, press 2 for Spanish, have high rates of money transfers to Latin American countries, create laws to justify those who've entered illegally and tax the crap of the US born and naturalized to support it. Their approach to the 'American" way of life is a far cry from the Hispanics in my family who arrived here, busted their butts to learn English, did not have ESL in the schools, did not have government sponsored handouts. The USA was practicing Tough Love back then; guess what -- it worked. My people assimilated and became USCs. They did not expect anyone to carry them.
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Since you brought up legal, are you aware of the Jewish marriage? Whereby a couple is married in faith but not legally at City Hall? This affords the woman and all her children a lot of free ****/services/monies, while paying no taxes. This would be ok, but not illegal immigrants that work and pay taxes?
Why are you bringing up Jews? Couldn't you be equally offensive and discuss common law white marriages or unmarried black or white mothers with multiple children from different fathers? If they're all born here, they qualify for those services.
I don't know, ask Bernie Madoff. The biggest crooks wear suits and ties and get their liquor delivered.
Crime is crime. I don't care what you wear, who you worship, your address, your skin color, drive a hoopty or Italian import or whether you tipple Night Train on the stoop or have an extensive wine cellar.
Crime is crime. I don't care what you wear, who you worship, your address, your skin color, drive a hoopty or Italian import or whether you tipple Night Train on the stoop or have an extensive wine cellar.
P.S. Too late to ask Bernie Madoff.
What is your point overall? I'm pretty sure we've condensed this down over a few hundred threads to:
-Hold companies accountable for illegal hiring (not happening).
-Americans have more babies (that's how labor pools were made when America was less mediocre than now, also Not happening).
We DON'T have babies and we DON'T work for low wages. Thus we IMPORT labor, legally and illegally. We have by policy made Asia a region of superpowers at the cost of our middle class.
If we do NOT fold illegal workers into the legal economy, we're screwed. Start from there...then we can go into the fearful, faux christian, racist scapegoating reasons why we don't.
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