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While the salary appears to be high and the benefits appears to be great. This is how these districts attract top quality teachers. Most teachers are either Ivy League or tier 1 schools graduates with close to 4.0 GPA. Many scores top 2% percentile on their state certification exams. But, that will only get them an interview. It is the dedication and passion to teach that will get them (or keep) their job.
You are assuming teachers on LI get their jobs in a merit-based way. Most get their jobs because they "know someone."
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Sure, the teachers in the city cost less. But, I don’t think it’s fair to compare our districts with NYC’s. Since, their union is weak and haunted by the city’s wonderful cost cutting efforts. Just look at what that wonderful savings got for the taxpayers and the number of dropouts that suppose to be the future of this country.
Socioeconomics and parents who care are what drives success in schools. NOT how high the teachers are paid.
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I think our teachers are certainly capable of going into other more lucrative professions and not have their income published. When was the last time we hear someone complaint about their doctor, banker, contractor, realtor, manager for making too much and worked too little? (think real hard about the last appointment you tried to get with them during the normal work week) Or do we hear these professionals complaining about teacher’s salary. We don’t because, they wouldn’t be where they are today without one.
I don't pay their salaries, pensions and benefits out of my property tax dollars. If I did, I would be complaining.
I know a doctor who quit being a doctor to become a teacher because his practice was less lucrative than teaching (insurance reimbursements going down, cost of office staff, etc.). How did he do it? His wife was already a teacher and he got in via her connections ...
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Reason: I had him confused with someone else
You are assuming teachers on LI get their jobs in a merit-based way. Most get their jobs because they "know someone."
All the teachers I know personally got their job without knowing anyone in their district. Maybe that explains why it is hard to believe someone got their job through “someone”.
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Socioeconomics and parents who care are what drives success in schools. NOT how high the teachers are paid.
Socioeconomics, parents who care, and good teachers are what drives success in schools. And good teachers are not cheap.
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I don't pay their salaries, pensions and benefits out of my property tax dollars. If I did, I would be complaining.
Try New Orleans, LA! But, I heard they have school tax too.
While the salary appears to be high and the benefits appears to be great. This is how these districts attract top quality teachers. Most teachers are either Ivy League or tier 1 schools graduates with close to 4.0 GPA. Many scores top 2% percentile on their state certification exams. But, that will only get them an interview. It is the dedication and passion to teach that will get them (or keep) their job.
Sure, the teachers in the city cost less. But, I don’t think it’s fair to compare our districts with NYC’s. Since, their union is weak and haunted by the city’s wonderful cost cutting efforts. Just look at what that wonderful savings got for the taxpayers and the number of dropouts that suppose to be the future of this country.
I think our teachers are certainly capable of going into other more lucrative professions and not have their income published. When was the last time we hear someone complaint about their doctor, banker, contractor, realtor, manager for making too much and worked too little? (think real hard about the last appointment you tried to get with them during the normal work week) Or do we hear these professionals complaining about teacher’s salary. We don’t because, they wouldn’t be where they are today without one.
Do you have any proof of that? Because I don't believe it.
I would say more like HofsTTTra masters of education and an "in" in the district ...
All the teachers I know personally got their job without knowing anyone in their district. Maybe that explains why it is hard to believe someone got their job through “someone”.
The "patronage" jobs and "connected" jobs in school districts on LI have been going on for DECADES AND DECADES literally. Trust me on this one! It's only hard to believe for someone who is young and naive with not much real world experience in local LI politics and civil service commissions.
Im sure 50% of the population bought their homes in the 80s too.
Something tells me 90k aint getting it done in E Williston today.
Crooks
So who says that anyone has to be guaranteed to have a salary where they can buy a home on one income? You act like $90K for an individual salary (not total household income) is poverty. Please.
So who says that anyone has to be guaranteed to have a salary where they can buy a home on one income? You act like $90K for an individual salary (not total household income) is poverty. Please.
So if we stopped giving them that much we would become a crime-infested cesspool? I wonder how soon that would happen? The next day or week after the new contract was signed ...
So if we stopped giving them that much we would become a crime-infested cesspool? I wonder how soon that would happen? The next day or week after the new contract was signed ...
Im with you LI.
Cops making 160k is a sin.
I just brought it up to see what the teacher market would bear in Nassau.
Crooks
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