Miami Jobs For People Who Do Not Speak Spanish? (Hialeah: attorney, find a job)

[littlelamb3]

I live in NY and I am NOT talking about jobs that require dealing with international clients. I am talking about teaching jobs and others requiring that you speak spanish . (I live on Long Island). I resent the fact that we are catering to these people when immigrants from the distant past (like mine) actually respected our language and our country and did not expect to be catered to. How can you argue that?? It is discrimination what is going on in Miami and it is starting to happen here as well, on Long Island, and I am sure in other places as well. This is still the US and english is primarily spoken. How dare someone tell me I cannot apply for a job because I do not speak a language that is absolutely not native to this country.



Why are we putting up with this?

[WINTERFRONT]

Originally Posted by littlelamb3

\ when immigrants from the distant past (like mine) actually respected our language and our country and did not expect to be catered to. ?

correction:
*sons of immigrants

The same story is happening here in Miami, so don't think you are so special.

[flyers29]

Originally Posted by littlelamb3

I live in NY and I am NOT talking about jobs that require dealing with international clients. I am talking about teaching jobs and others requiring that you speak spanish . (I live on Long Island). I resent the fact that we are catering to these people when immigrants from the distant past (like mine) actually respected our language and our country and did not expect to be catered to. How can you argue that?? It is discrimination what is going on in Miami and it is starting to happen here as well, on Long Island, and I am sure in other places as well. This is still the US and english is primarily spoken. How dare someone tell me I cannot apply for a job because I do not speak a language that is absolutely not native to this country.



Why are we putting up with this?

Yes, I also think it's BS that you would need to speak Spanish if you're referring to a simple teaching job. However, I highly doubt those accusing companies of using Spanish as a discriminator have a knowledge of whether or not each position they see advertised actually requires use of Spanish.

[MisterNY]

Originally Posted by littlelamb3

I live in NY and I am NOT talking about jobs that require dealing with international clients. I am talking about teaching jobs and others requiring that you speak spanish . (I live on Long Island). I resent the fact that we are catering to these people when immigrants from the distant past (like mine) actually respected our language and our country and did not expect to be catered to. How can you argue that?? It is discrimination what is going on in Miami and it is starting to happen here as well, on Long Island, and I am sure in other places as well. This is still the US and english is primarily spoken. How dare someone tell me I cannot apply for a job because I do not speak a language that is absolutely not native to this country.


Why are we putting up with this?

Agreed.

One thing to correct about your post. It's not immigrants from a distant past. There are immigrants coming from other countries that learn and assimilate till this day. It's the tolerance of the Spanish language over everything else that irks people. If you accomodate one group, do it for all. Or don't do it at all.

Why is it the only group that seems to refuse to assimilate? That's the question.


Side note (Great article, somewhat related):

English-Only Latinos Face 'The Shame' of Not Speaking Spanish - NAM

[♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥]

Originally Posted by MisterNY

Why is it the only group that seems to refuse to assimilate? That's the question.

You don't have to be rocket scientist to know the answer. Obviously it's the numbers. Majority rules, and Miami is 60% foreign born, with another 10% fluent in Spanish.

As someone that learned English as a second language I will always feel more comfortable speaking Spanish than English. If there is a non English speaker in the conversation I will switch to English but if someone is just eavesdropping, I don't care, if they get upset, that's their problem, not mine.

[umayreply]

Originally Posted by flyers29

Well if it's necessary for the job, then not hiring someone who isn't bilingual isn't discrimination.

Actually it is called Discrimination by definition which states doing or thinking something about/to someone without having a real reasonn except for their race, disability, nationality, etc. In this case it is language, not being bilingual. For you not to think so, you must be bilingual and dont understand, b/c u dont have to and refuse to comprehend what people who are not bilingual have to go through daily living in south florida.

[Your.Decision]

Of course it's discrimination. I am not going to go around in circles with people who are just trying to be smartasses. It is what it is...it's not only the evil white man who is guilty of this and firms in Miami need to start getting sued:

Discrimination:
"treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination."

Until the day that South Florida secedes from the United States and Spanish is sworn in as the official language, then I refuse to speak it and others who feel the same way should stop taking this crap and follow suit.

[flyers29]

Originally Posted by umayreply

Actually it is called Discrimination by definition which states doing or thinking something about/to someone without having a real reasonn except for their race, disability, nationality, etc. In this case it is language, not being bilingual. For you not to think so, you must be bilingual and dont understand, b/c u dont have to and refuse to comprehend what people who are not bilingual have to go through daily living in south florida.

I noted above that I am white, don't speak Spanish, and have a series of gripes about the language issue here myself. That said unless you can furnish proof that each job advertised here to require Spanish doesn't actually require it then your accusations are baseless. Maybe the problem is in your last sentence--while I have encountered language problems on many occasions here, it certainly is not something that affects me on a regular basis. Maybe you should stop hanging out in Hialeah and you won't have as many problems?

Originally Posted by Your.Decision

Until the day that South Florida secedes from the United States and Spanish is sworn in as the official language, then I refuse to speak it and others who feel the same way should stop taking this crap and follow suit.

And I certainly encourage standing your ground on speaking English. But this argument hasn't been about whether or not people not speaking English is annoying, it's been about false claims of discrimination. There's nothing in our legal code that would support your claim of discrimination.

[MisterNY]

Originally Posted by ♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥

You don't have to be rocket scientist to know the answer. Obviously it's the numbers. Majority rules, and Miami is 60% foreign born, with another 10% fluent in Spanish.

As someone that learned English as a second language I will always feel more comfortable speaking Spanish than English. If there is a non English speaker in the conversation I will switch to English but if someone is just eavesdropping, I don't care, if they get upset, that's their problem, not mine.

I think it's more arrogance than anything (mixed in with ignorance; refusal to learn). You're right, "numbers" has something to do with it, but that's not all.

You have Chinese, Koreans, Russians, Haitians, French Africans, Indians, Pakistanis and plenty of others coming to this country in numbers. They all assimilate one way or another. They ask for no special treatment, when it comes to language.

From experience, I've dealt with Mexicans in Georgia that make an effort to communicate when they need something, or when offering you a service. It also has to do with the locals not tolerating the "Se Habla Espanol solamente" mentality.

Miami is what it is..... Hope in another 20 years, it's not a major issue with the kids (hopefully) learning the language. I won't hold my breath.

[angelscorpio]

NOT ONLY Gringos but EVEN Latinos!,( no Cubans), who YET speak English are being discriminated too!!! I mean, if you are not Cuban you have 99% of chance of not being elected for the charge in question.

This issue is NOT because you are gringo or your gringo's last name or other thing. This is about Cuban's sectarianism in where they don't really like others but themselves. Face it, this is the Cuban's Miami mafia everywhere, and they really hate to share the space with others different from them. They think they are superior in race, education, money and power and most of them got that "fame-***** attitude" when finding jobs. They are like a little Hitler in America. They have a blatant disrespect for the American values and laws. It's a nightmare having a Cuban as a co-worker cuz they will do anything at hand to make you quite and take ur job and bring in another "Cuban brother". That's how things work here.

This is about "covert hostility" on other nationalities or even Northern natives. Hey come on, if you come abroad the minimum thing that you can do for a country that welcome you with its benefits is being thankful and polite. But they just want to destroy everything good and vampirizing everything in its path. The first words once they hop out of the raft is gimme gimme gimme etc , words pronounce for the rest of their lives. This is the know off of Socialism.

Nobody is dare to speak out about this cuz the media is dominated by them. I only have heard a dare AM Radio Station pointing this issue. Joyce Kaufman show on 1140 AM dial, a Puerto Rican patriotic girl.

Sorry to say and it could sound racist but it is what it is.

I wonder if we could write to some Politician or Senator in order to be heard. They have to be stopped now!!! ( and I am a Latino, no Cuban)