Minneapolis-St. Paul Ranked #4th Snobbiest City. (Cleveland, Florence: buses, title, racist)

[Cleverfield]

Originally Posted by rzzzz

That is a good one coming from an unemployed crazy person living in the 4th most racially segregated city in the USA.

Thanks, but I have a good job, nice house, and a rental property (and I'm 25 years old, and did it with my own money). I love that you're living up to your list loving reputation, I think you guys must have a stockpile of lists that you pull out whenever the context is appropriate. Where did this one come from, Forbes? Time Magazine? National Enquirer? When will you people realize that lists and statistics are not the whole story, and can certainly not be used to define something as nebulous as a culture.

[Ghengis]

Originally Posted by rzzzz

That is a good one coming from an unemployed crazy person living in the 4th most racially segregated city in the USA.

I'm guessing that "writing" career evidently never quite took off

but there's always hope

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[rzzzz]

Originally Posted by Cleverfield

Thanks, but I have a good job, nice house, and a rental property (and I'm 25 years old, and did it with my own money). I love that you're living up to your list loving reputation, I think you guys must have a stockpile of lists that you pull out whenever the context is appropriate. Where did this one come from, Forbes? Time Magazine? National Enquirer? When will you people realize that lists and statistics are not the whole story, and can certainly not be used to define something as nebulous as a culture.

You're a delusional english major drop out who couldn't get into the U of Iowa writing program and had to become a home inspector for foreclosures. In CLEVELAND. This City Data thread is going to be the only thing you accomplish in your entire life.

[Cleverfield]

Originally Posted by rzzzz

You're an english major drop out who couldn't get into the U of Iowa writing program and had to become a home inspector for foreclosures. In CLEVELAND. This City Data thread is going to be the only thing you accomplish in your entire life.

That's pretty funny actually, you made me LOL. Not a single thing you just wrote, except for the Cleveland part, is accurate. English Major (wrong), drop out (wrong) U of Iowa (wrong) home inspector (was for a few months after college, but have since moved on to bigger and better things, so wrong). Cleveland (right!).

That's 1 for 5. Not good.

[rzzzz]

Originally Posted by Cleverfield

That's pretty funny actually, you made me LOL.

Don't LOL too loud you'll wake up your parents upstairs.

[Cleverfield]

Originally Posted by rzzzz

Don't LOL too loud you'll wake up your parents upstairs.

The only thing upstairs is the roof over my head my friend. Your personal attacks based on nothing other than your pi$$ poor powers of perception are starting to get tiring. And I didn't even have to be an English Major to make that alliterative sentence.

[Minnesota Spring]

Jealousy is a very ugly thing and it is playing out very well on this thread.
Why don't you just move to Minneapolis Cleverfield so you don't have to be jealous anymore.

I was born and raised in Missouri so I am not a Minnesotan and everything you say about Minneapolis is ludicrous. I love the Twin Cities, just like I love Kansas City. Different cities, both great and both have inner cities that are making a come back.

[Cleverfield]

And you people wonder why your city is considered snobby? The mark of a snob is believing that everyone who speaks poorly of them is jealous.

[chessgeek]

Originally Posted by northsub

I'm still trying to figure out what you mean by most of this. Particularly the first couple of sentences. I honestly am pretty clueless as to what you are even trying to say. Made up my mind about what? Am I supposed to think there have NOT been changes to the area? And what is "the area" (Minneapolis, Twin Cites, Minnesota, Midwest, something else)? How does any of this seem to be insular thinking? Where did the 30 years come from? What does St. Cloud or Fargo have to do with any of this? Aren't we comparing Minneapolis to similar sized cities? Are you just (snobbishly) slamming St. Cloud and Fargo for no apparent reason?

After that I'm wondering if you are just a troll trying to slam Minneapolis. It seems like you are trying to defend against a claim that Minneapolis is insular by insinuating that nothing that happens outside of Minneapolis matters. Isn't that line of argument just reinforcing the idea that Minneapolis is insular?

I do find most of this thread similar. You had someone from somewhere else give an opinion that Minneapolis is insular. That claim is in part rejected by claiming that people from other areas couldn't possibly know anything about Minneapolis. Ummm, isn't that an insular argument.

Maybe I'll go back and read the thread assuming everything is sarcastic and then maybe it will make more sense.

The changes namely are that the area has more people of color these days and the population is tolerant and welcoming for the most part. The area has accepted large numbers of SE Asian immigrants, Somalis, a larger black population (some migrating from other cities), support and action on behalf of gay rights/marriage. I used Fargo and St. Cloud as examples of places where these things can happen, but much more slowly.

Troll? Only if you define that as someone with a different opinion than yours IMO. I certainly never said nothing outside Minneapolis matters. LOL. Clearly the area is not just insular, provincial and 95+% white any longer. That is really all I was saying and have supported that view with a significant number of examples in various posts here. Anyone that has paid attention to the many changes in the last 30-40 years in the area has to concede it is far less provincial/insular than it was in the distant past IMO. It just seemed to me your mind had been made up without considering this important information.

I would strongly suggest you re-read my post #247. Some good, open-minded actions and policies were even being advocated in the so-called "provincial" MN era. BTW, I forgot to mention Minnesota even has had a "Minnesota Black Musicians awards ceremony" since 1982! Sounds provincial and insular to me. NOT!

You are certainly entitled to your view and I will stick with mine. I was definitely assertive, but no disrespect was intended and am truly sorry if you felt otherwise.

[chessgeek]

Originally Posted by Cleverfield

Yeah, we know about your Hmong and Somalis. We have many refugee immigrants here too. Plus we have a larger Hispanic population than you guys do.

I checked the 2010 U.S. Census results and the two cities have approx equal Hispanic percentages, but slightly more for Minneapolis (Minneapolis 10.5%; Cleveland 10.0%). BTW, Minnesota has 4.7% Hispanic population and Ohio has 3.1% Hispanic population.

Sir, your credibility has been diminished by this simple fact check. You can simply call me and others snobs (name calling) for checking the facts if you prefer. Anyways, the NBA season is starting soon, so you can concentrate on Lebron James and the Cavaliers instead of getting too upset about "evil" Minnesotans. Enjoy!