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Old 02-27-2016, 09:32 PM
 
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yeah but native americans who have mixed in or not with whites don't consider themselves white. the vast majority of puerto ricans are mixed. i don't think most of you posting here have really experienced puerto rican culture, either by living there or as a tourist. 90% are mixed within context of it's history as an invaded and occupied territory. puerto rico is similar to indonesia, and the phillipines.. in many ways, people of those nationalities have difficulty defining themselves within today's classifications. in asia, phillipinos are a mix of polynesian, spanish/portuguese, and chinese. as to what you'd classify them, they're phillipinos.. reason there is no specific classification for puerto ricans and phillipinos is their small relative populace within broad categorizations.
I've been to Puerto Rico a few times, and have met a lot of them here in NYC.
Like I said, many are of European descent (just like many Americans are of European descent); some are not.
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Old 02-28-2016, 04:23 AM
 
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I've been to Puerto Rico a few times, and have met a lot of them here in NYC.
Like I said, many are of European descent (just like many Americans are of European descent); some are not.
according to your logic, then Indonesia and Philippines are white too, because Spain and Portugal colonized and mixed into their culture.

Also, though Puerto Ricans have some Spanish European heritage.. Spanish are not considered "white" in many cases, as many in South Spain are mixed Moors.. Ironically, the Moors who inhabited Spain, South Italy.. Guess who the Moors were? They were mixed Arabs.... Arabs aren't considered white. Northern Europeans do not consider most people of the Iberian Peninsula to be white.. Spain is a mixed culture.. for them to have mixed again in Puerto Rico, is 2nd derivative mixed.. a really mixed up nationality..

also, US is White Anglo Saxon, German, and Scot-Irish stock.. totally different origin than Porto ricans.

And Jennifer Lopez isn't white.

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Old 02-28-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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according to your logic, then Indonesia and Philippines are white too, because Spain and Portugal colonized and mixed into their culture.

Also, though Puerto Ricans have some Spanish European heritage.. Spanish are not considered "white" in many cases, as many in South Spain are mixed Moors.. Ironically, the Moors who inhabited Spain, South Italy.. Guess who the Moors were? They were mixed Arabs.... Arabs aren't considered white. Northern Europeans do not consider most people of the Iberian Peninsula to be white.. Spain is a mixed culture.. for them to have mixed again in Puerto Rico, is 2nd derivative mixed.. a really mixed up nationality..

also, US is White Anglo Saxon, German, and Scot-Irish stock.. totally different origin than Porto ricans.

And Jennifer Lopez isn't white.
Spaniards are considered white Europeans.

Jennifer Lopez is obviously mixed with native and African.
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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Spaniards are considered white Europeans.

Jennifer Lopez is obviously mixed with native and African.
so why aren't philipinos white. they have spaniard bloodlines.

also depends on who you speak to.. wasps and germans don't consider spaniards to be white. i know a spanish man/german woman relationship that needed to relocate out of germany to the UK because of the racism..

they do not equate thru a socialist concept called "European Union".. there really is no union, hence Brexit about to happen, the UK is leaving Europe.

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Old 02-28-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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so why aren't philipinos white. they have spaniard bloodlines.
Because there are almost no philipinos solely of Spanish descent.

Many Puerto Ricans are of solely Spanish descent.
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Old 02-28-2016, 10:05 PM
 
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Because there are almost no philipinos solely of Spanish descent.

Many Puerto Ricans are of solely Spanish descent.
your agenda has been recognized. forget it.. it won't work.. puerto ricans aren't white as a national identity as much as you jews would like to be white but aren't. have some pride in your own heritage..
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Old 02-28-2016, 11:18 PM
 
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your agenda has been recognized. forget it.. it won't work.. puerto ricans aren't white as a national identity as much as you jews would like to be white but aren't. have some pride in your own heritage..
I'm a white Jew. My great grandparents came from Poland. Very proud of my heritage. Religion isn't equal to race or nationality.
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:30 AM
 
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Because there are almost no philipinos solely of Spanish descent.

Many Puerto Ricans are of solely Spanish descent.
no, there aren't. there are not many puerto ricans of solely spanish descent, either.

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Old 02-29-2016, 01:09 AM
 
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your agenda has been recognized. forget it.. it won't work.. puerto ricans aren't white as a national identity as much as you jews would like to be white but aren't. have some pride in your own heritage..
"Early Arab immigrants desperately pursued whiteness and performed it in immigration proceedings. The law officially mandated whiteness as a prerequisite for US citizenship until 1952. Key judicial decisions in 1915 and later 1944, solidified the legal designation that Arabs were white by law."

Are Arabs white? - Al Jazeera English

not everyone gets a white card.
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Old 02-29-2016, 05:15 AM
 
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I'm a white Jew. My great grandparents came from Poland. Very proud of my heritage. Religion isn't equal to race or nationality.
Being Jewish isn't just religion, it's quasi race/religion, as there is matrilineality, passed down through the mother. Jewish history is of migration since the diaspora, and their identity has been preserved to strict adherence to their religious laws, which clearly state that one can't be converted in, which implies race. It's interesting how many people wouldn't mind being lumped into the "white" category, but protest being categorized "browns" or "beiges" if arabic, semitic, south indian or mestizo puerto rican.
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