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Old 07-23-2020, 02:38 PM
 
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That, plus it is hot out, and the virus dies in the heat.

That, plus, the masks impede breathing and really aren't very good idea when it is hot outside because you have to breathe.
Who told you that? That was a rumor people were clinging to in March. Have you ever been to Texas or Florida in the summer?? Heat is not killing the virus.
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:43 PM
 
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Who told you that? That was a rumor people were clinging to in March. Have you ever been to Texas or Florida in the summer?? Heat is not killing the virus.
UV does kill the virus.
I think part of the reason it’s spreading in Florida and Texas is because they are indoors and in air conditioning most of the time.
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:45 PM
 
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UV does kill the virus.
I think part of the reason it’s spreading in Florida and Texas is because they are indoors and in air conditioning most of the time.
Okay.
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:48 PM
 
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Right so it should be even HARDER for Alaska to jump to 134% in two weeks. Doesn't make any sense.

If only we'd had an organized response from the beginning we might actually have some useful information by now, but right now most of the country is an absolute mess. I texted my son he needs to move here. He's in LA. His response was, "I wish!"
I agree with you that "most of the country is an absolute mess." I did attempt to cite some examples of how inconsistent measures are, etc. I think there is something to be said for those that are immune to it now, or maybe have had it and developed resistance, or had the antibodies to resist it, etc. Even the population is so varied it begs the question: "What are we going to do."

As to Alaska.. Hey, I can say, I don't know. Maybe a cruise ship docked there, maybe there is an outbreak, maybe the virus thrives in colder temperature, (I have heard it spreads and thrives indoors, yet another good reason not to be locked inside.) But.. Have to agree with HudsonCoNJ, numbers are suspect and can be massaged. And if a poll wants to promote "Covid is everywhere! Covid is everywhere! Covid is EVERYWHERE!" .. It wouldn't surprise me. Same say Consumer Reports once had a Cadillac Eldorado as a -147% reliability rating...... (probably one of the Northstar ones. Something about how they took the reports of unreliabilty from the dealership numbers, and that was higher than the number of owners that wrote in.. or something weird like that.)
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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I still think (backed up by a couple doctors - one I know personally and one online acquaintance) that you have a certain percentage of the population who is/was more susceptible to getting the virus, and that they'll all get it no matter if it's now or later. With NJ having had early cases before much was known or suspected, if that's true, then most of those susceptible people will have gotten it already. Those who didn't, are less likely to get it now, even if things have opened up and beaches are crowded.
Quoting myself, lol. To follow up, there's the blood type angle as one potential reason for the above. Then there's the idea that some of us just aren't going to get it regardless.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...or-coronavirus
In a recent study, researchers concluded that people with type A blood have a higher risk of contracting the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19.
The experts add that past research has shown some connection between blood type and illnesses such as the stomach flu, as well as the risk of stroke and cognitive impairment.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/120085...out-infection/
Research has shown that being infected with other coronaviruses, such as the common cold, could offer some protection against the new bug.

Recent studies have found that a separate part of the immune system, known as T-cells, were already had in the blood of some patients who had recovered from Covid.

Similarly to antibodies, they are made in response to an infection - and remain afterwards - suggesting that previous exposure to other coronaviruses had somehow primed their T-cells to recognise and attack Covid-19.

It's thought they could be responsible for stopping the virus in people who never show symptoms.

But more importantly, those T-cells die off in older people, which could explain why the elderly are at higher risk of severe illness.
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:52 PM
 
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UV does kill the virus.
I think part of the reason it’s spreading in Florida and Texas is because they are indoors and in air conditioning most of the time.
Direct sunlight, usually associated with heat.

It does not wait at the mailbox, waiting to jump out and get you like the Boogeyman, though.. some uhhh errr ummm "experts.." Well who knows what they are saying this week.

If the virus does spread, it is in the cool AC when you get back to your house, or by touching things at the air conditioned supermarket etc. Florida: You live in the AC. You go from your air-conditioned house, to your air-conditioned car. (Maybe it lives in your car?) Then you go from your air conditioned car.. to the air conditioned store. Get out of the air-conditioned store, go back to your air-conditioned car. Go to another air-conditioned store, go to your air-conditioned job (if you are lucky enough to work inside, or in a refrigerated warehouse like me..) Then go back to your air-conditioned house. Texas may be the same.. Never been. Lived in Florida though. REALLY hot down there but sometimes you can adapt and sometimes you have to stay inside it is too hot. Depends.
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:27 PM
 
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Quoting myself, lol. To follow up, there's the blood type angle as one potential reason for the above. Then there's the idea that some of us just aren't going to get it regardless.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...or-coronavirus
In a recent study, researchers concluded that people with type A blood have a higher risk of contracting the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19.
The experts add that past research has shown some connection between blood type and illnesses such as the stomach flu, as well as the risk of stroke and cognitive impairment.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/120085...out-infection/
Research has shown that being infected with other coronaviruses, such as the common cold, could offer some protection against the new bug.

Recent studies have found that a separate part of the immune system, known as T-cells, were already had in the blood of some patients who had recovered from Covid.

Similarly to antibodies, they are made in response to an infection - and remain afterwards - suggesting that previous exposure to other coronaviruses had somehow primed their T-cells to recognise and attack Covid-19.

It's thought they could be responsible for stopping the virus in people who never show symptoms.

But more importantly, those T-cells die off in older people, which could explain why the elderly are at higher risk of severe illness.
And unfortunately, this is all intelligent guesswork. Because we had no coordinated response, we now have no coordinated reliable information.
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:52 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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And unfortunately, this is all intelligent guesswork.
No, it is evidence arrived at by professional researchers.

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Because we had no coordinated response, we now have no coordinated reliable information.
One has nothing to do with the other.
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Old 07-23-2020, 04:31 PM
 
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No, it is evidence arrived at by professional researchers.


One has nothing to do with the other.
You *just may* be talking to a brick wall on that one. Maybe.

However, you are correct.

Just don't get too frustrated.... That's the secret.. Don't let it infuriate you, if it does then they win... Just remain calm, and watch heads explode.
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Old 07-23-2020, 06:28 PM
 
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You *just may* be talking to a brick wall on that one. Maybe.

However, you are correct.

Just don't get too frustrated.... That's the secret.. Don't let it infuriate you, if it does then they win... Just remain calm, and watch heads explode.
I wonder which banned troll you were. Feel free to hide in the NJ forum. Doesn't mean we're not on to you. And keep drinking that Kool Aid.
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