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Old 08-18-2020, 04:46 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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what back ups and improvements should they do to stop trees from falling in the case of a storm?
Putting electrical lines underground ?
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Old 08-18-2020, 05:01 PM
 
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Putting electrical lines underground ?
When I bought my house in 1996, two of the many reasons for this purchase included the fact that the electrical lines for the development were underground, and the local utility is PSEG.

When I first looked at the area, I was under the mistaken impression that it was served by JCP&L, and that almost caused me to walk away. After learning that PSEG served the area, and after confirming that the electrical, phone, and cable service lines were all underground, I warmed to the idea of buying the house.
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Old 08-18-2020, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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yes, a sloppy uncoordinated response would be their fault. i just dont know enough to evaluate it. it seems clear that their response wasnt perfect but i know every circuit in holmdel was taken out by the storm and i drove around and saw tons of trees down. maybe they did do a terrible job but i dont really know how much better someone doing a great job would have done. i dont like to criticize if i dont know for sure that they did a poor job.

it would be nice if we had those kinds of redundancies but im pretty sure that we dont. im not sure how common that is.
I'm sure it's more common in newer systems, but in areas that were developed a while ago and/or jerry-rigged piecemeal as an area grew, it's less common.
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Old 08-19-2020, 08:08 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Putting electrical lines underground ?
everyone mentions that and im sure that would be great but im not sure how common that is. when it gets mentioned, generally people say it is cost prohibitive. they also complain about the power company only caring about profits. its a business not a charity, of course it cares about profits. id love to see a proposal presented with the cost of burying the lines and what that would add to our electric rates and have it put to a vote. ultimately its the ratepayer that will cover the cost (unless the town politicians who pretend they will do something want to fund it through taxpayer money).
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Old 08-19-2020, 12:01 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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...they also complain about the power company only caring about profits. its a business not a charity, of course it cares about profits...
Don't companies invest some of their profits, back into development/improvement of their products/services ?
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Old 08-19-2020, 12:47 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Don't companies invest some of their profits, back into development/improvement of their products/services ?
those arent profits, those are expenses.

ultimately, they arent going to spend more money than they think that they will be able to earn and make a profit on. if they spend money improving their infrastructure, ratepayers are going to pay for the full cost of it. thats how business works,
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Old 08-19-2020, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I can’t imagine the cost of burying all the power lines underground to be worth it. And I have no idea what it would cost, it just sounds expensive. Power goes out too infrequently for me to want to pay to have this done. Losing power is such an infrequent and temporary problem that I don’t see how a smaller inexpensive generator wouldn’t be a solution for most.
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Old 08-19-2020, 02:52 PM
 
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I can’t imagine the cost of burying all the power lines underground to be worth it. And I have no idea what it would cost, it just sounds expensive. Power goes out too infrequently for me to want to pay to have this done.
I agree.
Retrofitting existing electrical service lines would likely be cost-prohibitive.
My house is part of a development that was built on a former dairy farm, so in the process of excavating that virgin land for water and sewer lines, burying the electrical, phone, and cable lines underground added very little to the construction costs.

In a suburban or even a rural area, retrofitting existing electrical service lines would be very expensive.
In an urban area, nobody in his right mind would even consider such an incredibly-costly project.
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Old 08-19-2020, 03:00 PM
 
Location: NJ
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if you google a bit you will see some examples where the task was considered and it seems to always be considered cost prohibitive and isnt carried out.

the other thing would be aggressive tree cutting near power lines but id imagine that would be very hard to carry out for political reasons. a friend of mine has the police called on him when he cuts down a tree on his property even though he has every right to.
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Old 08-19-2020, 04:11 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I can’t imagine the cost of burying all the power lines underground...
Not everywhere, just where there are alot of trees, and not alot of houses.
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