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Old 05-27-2010, 09:18 PM
 
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I think the origin and term "Anglo" has a lot more to do with "Anglophone"...a speaker of English language...than any relationship with England or English heritage
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:22 PM
 
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no use talking to HB but I have to interject that NM and SoCal are two VERY different places.
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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If you were to live in New Mexico or Colorado--or about anywhere in the Southwest--I would respectfully suggest that you'd better "buck up, little camper" and grow a thicker skin, because you WILL be called an "Anglo" here, and not just by Hispanics. That is just the way it is. The term is generally NOT invoked to be offensive. If you choose to take it that way, then you will be offended a lot of the time. If you can't live with that, then don't come here to live or visit--that simple.
agreed!!! It certainly isn't an offensive label, just a term often used.

Nita
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Well, the fact remains, lots of people do and will find it offensive. It's not a globally accepted term used for white people, and it never will be. I think it's ignorant, it shows the speaker does not know what the term anglo means. I'll still choose to respect the individual's heritage and culture because in my heart I believe that it the right thing to do. For Example, Brazilians have the right to say they are not Hispanic. And it shows respect for their culture to acknowledge that. And you don't call a Puerto Rican person, Porteguese and tell them not to be so picky should they complain. Having a multicultural society doesn't mean we all become homogenous blobs with no awareness of our heritage.
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Santa Fe
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Well, the fact remains, lots of people do and will find it offensive. It's not a globally accepted term used for white people, and it never will be. I think it's ignorant, it shows the speaker does not know what the term anglo means. I'll still choose to respect the individual's heritage and culture because in my heart I believe that it the right thing to do. For Example, Brazilians have the right to say they are not Hispanic. And it shows respect for their culture to acknowledge that. And you don't call a Puerto Rican person, Porteguese and tell them not to be so picky should they complain. Having a multicultural society doesn't mean we all become homogenous blobs with no awareness of our heritage.
New Mexico is a different world from Massechusetts. This is not a term of disrespect. The police use it to describe someone who is white. I agree with what someone else here said. If it offends you, NM isn't the place for you to visit or live.
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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I agree with you, if someone is white and of Celtic, or Basque, or Finnish, or Irish, or Russian descent, the FACT IS they are not Anglo descent, and they have the right to assert that they do not wish to be mislabeled as Anglo.
Celtic, Basque, Finnish, Irish, and Russian Americans don't speak English? Of course they do, that's why they are called 'Anglos' and unless they are very recent immigrants, they are steeped in American culture which is as culturally 'Anglocentric' as it gets outside of England and maybe Australia/NZ.

You know the Amish refer to Celtic, Basques, Finnish, Irish, and Russian Americans as 'English', too. Are the Amish racist?!? (well probably)

For the record, Most descendants of the Celts in the world today speak German, Czech, French and Italian. Certainly not English (or even Gaelic for that matter).
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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It looks like I'm getting a crash course in the dumbing down of America.
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Old 05-28-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: ABQ (Paradise Hills), NM
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It looks like I'm getting a crash course in the dumbing down of America.
I think those of us that live in here in the SW might hope that you would take it more as a wake up call.

If the worst thing you have to worry about in your life is correctly designating the ethnic heritage of those you meet, and having others return the favor, then you should truly be the subject of envy.

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Old 05-28-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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It looks like I'm getting a crash course in the dumbing down of America.
No, you're getting a crash course that there is an America outside of the East Coast. Get this straight, I personally don't know anyone in my area of Colorado (or New Mexico), regardless of their heritage, that finds the term "Anglo" offensive.

If somebody really wants to offend you in this region, you will be called some other slang term--either in English or Spanish, and most people know both the English and Spanish derogatory names, regardless of their ancestry.

I will grant you one thing: Westerners, regardless of ancestry, tend to be pretty direct and blunt--it comes from the region's rough frontier heritage. For the most part, I cherish that, because you don't have to guess about where you stand in their mind. So, around this region, if someone calls you an "easily offended Eastern 'gringa'," chances are they mean it.
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Old 05-28-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico
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