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Black people usually have powerful vocal ability no matter where they come from. Why would they want to sound like anyone else? Why is that necessarily better for them to sound like anyone else?
I don't like generalizations, but I wish this one were true for me. No one hears me even when I yell.
1863 was the infamous draft riots in NYC. Many blacks were attacked by Irish and Anglo American mobs. Whites vs blacks, Immigrants vs natives, Catholic Vs Protestant, Rich vs poor, Republican Vs Democrate. Biggest losers in NYC were the Anglo and the Blacks who are both Americans against the Irish Immigrant. After the riot many Blacks moved out the city and the NYC Black community wont be rivived until the Harlem Rennisance. I would like to know is there any NYC Blacks who ancestors have been in NYC since the civil war era instead of the 1st and 2nd great migrations.
Wow! Kudos to you Bronxguyanese for even knowing aboput the draft riots. So few people know about that part of New York and American history. A little history trivia, besides the Five Points, what was a major black enclave before Harlem in Manhattan? There were several but one is so pricey no one lives there today.
Neither "black" nor "African-American" are accurate terms. I think the terms below are more encompassing of our complete makeup and I have begun to use them to describe myself.
Race - Multigenerational Multiracial
Culture/Ethnicity - American (my family has been in NYC since 1910, or so)
Although, I don't know many blacks, the ones I do know are multi racial. Often times having European ancestry as well as African.
Neither "black" nor "African-American" are accurate terms. I think the terms below are more encompassing of our complete makeup and I have begun to use them to describe myself.
Race - Multigenerational Multiracial
Culture/Ethnicity - American (my family has been in NYC since 1910, or so)
When I hear that someone wants to call themselves Multigenerational Multiracial, it makes me feel like they're purposely being vague. Like they're ashamed of where they come from, so they want to hide it via a nebulous description.
Rarely would you ever hear a white person calling themselves "multiracial" if they were mixed European and Middle Eastern Jew. They would just call themselves white when asked what race they were. Same goes for a South American of mostly European ancestry. Why? Because "white" carries a higher status (unfortunately) so people are eager to identify with that. People who aren't white seem to want to get away from calling themselves anything that says they aren't white, but you can't change the essence of a thing by giving it a different name.
Negro, colored, black, Afro-American, African-America, whatever label you want to put on it, Black Americans are still Black Americans and as Black Americans their experiences are more similar culturally to each other than to those of most white Americans. Their experiences and culture sets them apart from white america which shapes the person they are inside. Whatever they call themselves, they will always be different from white america until we're all one color. And as humans, we are always going to want to create labels, and as long as their situation and culture is different from that of whites, people are going to want to put a label on it.
Changing the name of what a race decides to call themselves only changes the name - and nothing else.
Wow! Kudos to you Bronxguyanese for even knowing aboput the draft riots. So few people know about that part of New York and American history. A little history trivia, besides the Five Points, what was a major black enclave before Harlem in Manhattan? There were several but one is so pricey no one lives there today.
Would that be the area around where Lincoln Center is located today. I believe the area was called San Juan Hill.
Nobody uses this word in my small Florida town. Only person that I heard using it was Larry the Cable Guy who is not even from the South
Quote:
honey chile
Used by both black & white southerners
Quote:
ya'll Blacks use these too
yer
fer
as in, "bless yer heart"
Blacks use these too. I think you have some hatred towards white southerners.
To counter this blacks use a lot of terms that are not even proper English.
Aight
A yo b
Shawty
Yo son you mad cool(not even correct usage of the adjective)
I be workin
Get yalls ____
I finna
Gutta
Dope
Reppin mah hood son
I am sorry but this is how blacks talk.. They usually say a curse word after every other word. I was a Social Worker working in the black areas of NYC and this is what I have observed. God help them. If a black speaks in proper English they get bashed for "talking white".
Last edited by *SunsetSkies*; 02-12-2011 at 03:26 PM..
Reason: Forgot something
But there are still traces of the southern accents in places on the west coast and the midwest. Blacks in LA, Oakland, Chicago, DC, and Philly(Yes Philly blacks have a twang). All have southern traces in their accents. They are also descendants of migrants from the same era of the migrants to NYC. The question is why did the hint of the southern twang died out in the black accent of NYC?
Black migration generally followed the the rail lines. So Blacks in Mississipppi and Alabama ended up in Chicago, Milwaukee. California Blacks tended to come from Louisana and Texas, and as some one mention earlier the eastern blacks in North Carolina, Virginia, and South Carolina etc ended up in Northern cities along I-95. Of course these are not hard and fast rules but that's how the general pattern of migration occured.
Also in NYC, there was a relatively large and sustained migration from the Caribbean. For example Colin Powell's folks came from Jamaica in the 20s.
Fast forward today the majority of black people in NYC do not have Southern roots but are of Caribbean or recent African heritage. Many Southern rooted Blacks are heading back South.
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