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Old 07-07-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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What about the people who were priced out?
Bronx, New Jersey, Staten Island are filled with affordable neighborhoods. NYC should work on improving all of those traditionally poor neighborhoods by encouraging middle-class people to move there, beautifying them, give developers incentives to build nice housing, adding more services, etc.

Manhattan is great and done. Leave it alone and focus on the bad parts of the other boroughs and bring those into the first world.
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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Bronx, New Jersey, Staten Island are filled with affordable neighborhoods. NYC should work on improving all of those traditionally poor neighborhoods by encouraging middle-class people to move there, beautifying them, give developers incentives to build nice housing, adding more services, etc.

Manhattan is great and done. Leave it alone and focus on the bad parts of the other boroughs and bring those into the first world.
Many middle classed people already live in those boroughs and have for awhile. As far as the Bronx is concerned, these decent-to-good neighborhoods will always be in the shadow of stigmatization.

Also, even the grittiest neighborhoods in the city are considered "first world". They have running water, heat, electricity, sanitation, and access to the city. there are medical clinics and the residents don't have the threat of starvation. These neighborhoods ain't pretty, but it's hyperbole to consider them less than first world. NYC's projects don't have anything on the favelas in Brasil.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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What about the people who were priced out?
People need to learn to live within their means. Plain and simple. If you are priced out of Manhattan or brownstone Brooklyn, than you can no longer afford that lifestyle. Either improve your skill set, go back to school, or move to a more affordable area within an hour commute or your job.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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People need to learn to live within their means. Plain and simple. If you are priced out of Manhattan or brownstone Brooklyn, than you can no longer afford that lifestyle. Either improve your skill set, go back to school, or move to a more affordable area within an hour commute or your job.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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No one held a gun to your head and forced you to accept that job as a city worker. Maybe you should take your intellect and go find a city job in another city? Rinsing the city of miserable schmucks like you will be one step in the right direction.

Except that some one must do lower paid work, unless you plan to collect your own garbage, and don't go to restaurants, or plan to access healthcare or education.

The wealthy are very high users of low paid workers. Who is going to staff their door men buildings?

So where are all these people supposed to live?
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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or move to a more affordable area within an hour commute or your job.

Sorry but all these areas are now beyond the reach of all of those baby sitters which the wealthy love to use.

Even crime ridden ENY isn't cheap any more. Not with all the refugees from the rest of Brooklyn, even Bedstuy and Bushwick!

So the wealthy will have to also change their lifestyles and raise their own kids and ailing parents, rather than outsourcing those duties.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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Except that some one must do lower paid work, unless you plan to collect your own garbage, and don't go to restaurants, or plan to access healthcare or education.

The wealthy are very high users of low paid workers. Who is going to staff their door men buildings?

So where are all these people supposed to live?
They are suppose to live 30 miles away and take a 9 hr train ride.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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In my neighborhood on Staten Island, you can get a nice 1BR with your own private entrance for around $850-$900 a month. .

And when every one flees from Brooklyn, and Upper Manhattan, and increasingly even Queens, how low will those rents remain. ENY is now $1,300 for a I BR. Yes crime ridden ENY!
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:52 PM
 
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Bronx, New Jersey, Staten Island are filled with affordable neighborhoods. NYC should work on improving all of those traditionally poor neighborhoods by encouraging middle-class people to move there, beautifying them, give developers incentives to build nice housing, adding more services, etc.

Manhattan is great and done. Leave it alone and focus on the bad parts of the other boroughs and bring those into the first world.
Excuse me? Staten Island is not full of "poor neighborhoods" pal.

As for NJ you do realize that is another state and not everyone can or wishes to move across the river.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:53 PM
 
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Excuse me? Staten Island is not full of "poor neighborhoods" pal.

As for NJ you do realize that is another state and not everyone can or wishes to move across the river.
His name is Louis XVI, he is royalty..he does not want peasants living in Manhattan...It's uncivilized...
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