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Old 02-06-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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What will NYC rents be like in 5 to 10 years ?
In 5 years I'd say a little higher than today, on average. In ten years the city will begin to go to sh*t again. In 30 years we will be back to how it was during the 70s.

Everything goes in cycles.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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In 5 years I'd say a little higher than today, on average. In ten years the city will begin to go to sh*t again. In 30 years we will be back to how it was during the 70s.

Everything goes in cycles.
doubt it, there were like 200m people in the US in the 70's, by 2025 that figures to be well over 300m. There is only so much land and cities will always be more densely populated. In the 70's there was so much unused real estate.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:39 PM
 
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doubt it, there were like 200m people in the US in the 70's, by 2025 that figures to be well over 300m. There is only so much land and cities will always be more densely populated. In the 70's there was so much unused real estate.
In those days people could leave NYC and cheaply move to Florida. That era is OVER!! Florida is now the third most populous state in the nation.

Also from the 40s to the 80s the government financed the development of the suburbs and the Sunbelt. Now that they are developed the government made sure it ended urban disinvestment. It wasn't a cycle that ended the crime wave in major cities. The national government funded the hiring of more police and nationally cracked down on crime in the nation's biggest cities. Investors were given huge tax credits to invest in big cities.

Real estate in big cities was always valuable, but it became even more so with the fall of the Soviet Union. The end of communism created many more wealthy people who needed to hide assets in the US from their governments and this isn't going away.
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Old 02-06-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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It could definitely take generations more to even out disparities. Meanwhile the 1 percent thing is actually bogus and fake.

There's a huge difference in the living standards between a Black person like this guy who is probably from the housing projects, and a white person who grew up in a nice suburban district. The person from a well of suburb (or wealthy urban district) has a better education, access to better jobs and is likely to inherit family assets.

Very different from the poor Black person from the housing projects who has no family assets to inherit.

In fact the white person from the suburbs likely had a better k-12 educational experience and is much more likely to have finished high school than the poor Black person from the housing projects. The incarceration rates of poor Blacks from the housing projects are also very high.

So claiming that there is a 99% is completely utter nonsense.
You say it's bogus and fake yet do not mention any logical reasons why you think it's bogus and fake I noticed. The golden rule is he who has the gold makes the rules. End of story.

Black people in the projects and comfortable/well educated white people in the suburbs are both just pawns and peons in the big game with slightly different life details. The big game is the top 1% which most people will never get anywhere near. Actually it's more like the top .1% that have the money and power required to influence policy and the public discussion. 1% is just a cleaner, catchier slogan I guess that everybody understands, but yet not entirely accurate. I'm talking about the Michael Bloombergs, the Donald Trumps, the Warren Buffets, the Koch Brothers, the Bill Gates, the Rupert Murdochs of the world. The multi-billionaires club. You answer to them whether you realize it or not.
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Old 02-06-2016, 01:25 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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doubt it, there were like 200m people in the US in the 70's, by 2025 that figures to be well over 300m. There is only so much land and cities will always be more densely populated. In the 70's there was so much unused real estate.
I'm expecting the next mass exodus to come from rising sea levels, an increased number of "superstorms" and technologies such as self driving cars which will make commuting much less stressful and efficient. The hipsters are already leaving in droves, moving to the small towns along the Hudson and to other such villages.

NYC is also losing its appeal as more and more big box chains are taking over, driving out the charming mom and pop establishments that made NYC great.

Everything goes in cycles. No worries, in another 100 years NYC will be cool again as an underwater city!
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Old 02-06-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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Poor people are called poor for a reason and not "cheap" as it translate in other languages, they are poor in personality, work ethic, education, etc. These people pretty much suck at everything.
Umm no. Many poor people as you would call them have great personalities and work ethnic. They just weren't privlaged to be able afford education and make a higher salary.
Everyone complains about illegals but the illegals who work, work long hours, sometimes not get conditions (i.e. the deliver man in the snow storm) and bust their butt for not much pay.
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Old 02-06-2016, 02:11 PM
 
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You say it's bogus and fake yet do not mention any logical reasons why you think it's bogus and fake I noticed. The golden rule is he who has the gold makes the rules. End of story.

Black people in the projects and comfortable/well educated white people in the suburbs are both just pawns and peons in the big game with slightly different life details. The big game is the top 1% which most people will never get anywhere near. Actually it's more like the top .1% that have the money and power required to influence policy and the public discussion. 1% is just a cleaner, catchier slogan I guess that everybody understands, but yet not entirely accurate. I'm talking about the Michael Bloombergs, the Donald Trumps, the Warren Buffets, the Koch Brothers, the Bill Gates, the Rupert Murdochs of the world. The multi-billionaires club. You answer to them whether you realize it or not.
You see many of those white men were not 1% as young men. Bloomberg did not come from that kind of money, nor did Gates. These men were comparatively well off but far from superrich, and they as upper middle class whites had a social mobility that a poor Black person from the projects just does not have.

The masses of Blacks did not come out for Occupy Wall Street, and won't come out for this rhetoric for the same reason.
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Old 02-06-2016, 02:14 PM
 
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I'm expecting the next mass exodus to come from rising sea levels, an increased number of "superstorms" and technologies such as self driving cars which will make commuting much less stressful and efficient. The hipsters are already leaving in droves, moving to the small towns along the Hudson and to other such villages.

NYC is also losing its appeal as more and more big box chains are taking over, driving out the charming mom and pop establishments that made NYC great.

Everything goes in cycles. No worries, in another 100 years NYC will be cool again as an underwater city!
So because you're doing poorly in NYC/can't make it out here it's going go down?

Technological innovation has been going on for centuries and it has not made cities less appealing.

Hipsters leaving in droves?

No. Those that can afford to stay here and who want to stay here can. What you're calling hipsters were unemployed garbage that moved here from the Midwest with little to no education and who claimed to be artists. Yes that kind of person cannot afford to live in NYC anymore and thank god.

Most Americans shop at big name brand stores, and New Yorkers are no different. Amazon is the nation's biggest retailer.
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Old 02-06-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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A great job is a pre-requiste to living in NYC long term UNLESS you are going to get some sort of subsidized housing. BronxGuyanese is right. Many transplants who come here and get so so jobs LEAVE within a FEW YEARS. NYC is a revolving DOOR and has been this way for a LONG TIME. NYC Natives or long term residents who know how to find subsidized housing can stay here without making much money due to various subsidies and regulations.

And in order to be able to afford to get market rate housing (particularly buy) in much of the city you're mostly a professional (which means you have a graduate degree) or you went to a top school. I'm not counting people who inherited houses from their parents.
You make no sense and you're flat out wrong.
A great job is not a pre-requisite at all.
By NYC, I mean all of NYC, not just Manhattan. Maybe you're just thinking of Manhattan which would make no sense once again.

Consider a husband-wife or bf-gf pair each earning 40-60k. Neither has a great job but they'd live in NYC just fine on their combined incomes.

A better way to put it is; if one doesn't have a great job then a multi-income household is a pre-requisite.
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Old 02-06-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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So because you're doing poorly in NYC/can't make it out here it's going go down?
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