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There is absolutely no way you can get to Bear Mountain in 30 to 40 minutes unless you go at two in the morning and drive 90 the whole way.
I have lived in NY for a long time and each year the traffic gets more and more absurd. I love living here but it can be such a hassle to just try to get away for a day or the weekend and I was comparing it to other cities where that is not as much of an issue.
The Palisades are definitely a quick drive though. I don't remember exactly but it wasn't a long drive at all from the city, and the driver was going very slow.
May I ask the ages of those who want to stay and those who want to leave (though I gather the OP is young)? I know when I was in my 20's I wouldn't have considered going anywhere else, I found the city so fun and exciting with all its night clubs and activity.
But as you get older you often want more peace, and when you have a kid you want them in a nice school and a house with a yard for them to play in. I lived in CT until I was 13 when I moved here, so I had a wonderful childhood there right near a small beach on the LI Sound, woods with a pond to ice skate on and run around in (and smoke cigarillos in at age 9 lol) and a lake to jump off of rocks in. Back in the day we did all of these activities without any adult supervision, and we were like 7 years old. Times have changed and my daughter wont be going out of my site, country or not..
Yeah I'm 21. I want to move now because I think if I don't do it while I have little attachment to this city, I probably never will if I stay a few more years when I get use to living expensive.
You people gotta tell me where you party because life is getting mundane , even in this city for me. Especially when you're poor.
If "cultural" equates to platic surgery, self-rightiousness, egomanical, consumerist, and entirely fake in all respects, then, yes, Beverly Hills has got it all.
Dude, are you sure you aren't talking about NYC? I'm from California and I'm not going to say that isn't true, because I don't front..but I was dissappointed when I came to NYC because it's worse here. It's like OCD here.
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May I ask the ages of those who want to stay and those who want to leave (though I gather the OP is young)? I know when I was in my 20's I wouldn't have considered going anywhere else, I found the city so fun and exciting with all its night clubs and activity.
I'm 23 and I'm dying to get out of here. The weather is terrible and I'm generally tired of the filth. While I admit there is a lot to do here, it comes with sacrifices. I think it's a personal choice for me. I enjoy good weather..I'm a sunbather for sure.
Just be sure to stay to the north of Wilshire if you want the perception of glamor. South of Wilshire and an adjacent area in the school district (uninc. West LA) are not exactly what comes to mind when the term BH is used. And culture is a relative term in LA, as there are some erudite and educated people, but they are blase when it comes to the trappings of sheer "glamor" as fueled by the publicist world. BH is a city that I know well, as I used to live nearby and went there or to Westwood for everything. It's not how it's portrayed on television and in film.
LOL. Trust me. I'm a California girl @ heart. I know the deal
Beverly Hills?? I used to rent a place in Beverly Hills and some parts are glorious, but you are still in dumpy polluted Los Angeles.
P.S., there are no beaches in Beverly Hills. People who move to "Hollywood" to be around "culture" glorious, beautiful, mountains (which you can't ever see anyway because of the filthy air) people usually all leave within a year when they are faced with the harsh reality that it's just a false perception...and they watch too much television. If you want California glory, stay as far away from Los Angeles as you can. You would probably like Santa Barbara which in my opinion, is glorious if you like slow living.
And I too, don't understand why anyone would want to move from NYC to Seattle? Seattle is ugly in my opinion. It's so gloomy and depressing, I can't stand it.
Yeah, I'm not really moving to Beverly Hills..but it is GORGEOUS. There is a reason why the houses are 10million and up .
I love Santa Barbara and all the winery cities as well. They are beautiful! And when you live in those cities..the beach actually isn't that far. Maybe 30 minutes at the most.
Dude, are you sure you aren't talking about NYC? I'm from California and I'm not going to say that isn't true, because I don't front..but I was dissappointed when I came to NYC because it's worse here. It's like OCD here.
Cali is huge. It's a country unto itself. Are you comparing L.A. specifically to New York or whatever part of Cali you were from?
LOL. Trust me. I'm a California girl @ heart. I know the deal
Good. Although, I would not necessarily mind some of the drama around the streets of BH and Bel Air that one sees so frequently on television and in film. It would certainly spice things up a bit.
Santa Barbara and the winery areas you mentioned in your other post are very nice indeed, and I can see living in places like Montecito, Santa Barbara, or St. Helena if you like it up north, etc.
Recently, during my visit to Canada I fell in love with Toronto. I can actually see myself living there. No matter where I go I always end up missing New York, I love it here with it's numerous imperfections. New York is so alive and human! It's intense, angry, loving, hating, gritty, glamorous, fragrant, depressed, loyal, capricious, unreasonable and intellectual. It reflects all emotions which are essential for living, I love the feeling that I am surrounded by the fullness and the intensity of life here.
Toronto reminds me of a cleaner, cozier and friendlier New York. It has culture, arts, ethnic diversity, energy and the variety of food. The real estate is much better/cheaper there and the people are terrific, the caliber is very different. They aren't as disgruntled as New Yorkers.
Has anyone thought of moving to Toronto? Any comparisons to New York?
Cali is huge. It's a country unto itself. Are you comparing L.A. specifically to New York or whatever part of Cali you were from?
I have been all over California.
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