Here we go....Coronavirus confirmed in Los Angels and Orange Counties (Irvine: unemployment, public school)

[NewbieHere]

Originally Posted by saibot

No, officially closing the beach and/or parking lots is not the same as handing out stickers saying residents of XYZ city can use the beach but no one else can. Lots of people who live in beach cities don't live close enough to conveniently walk to the beach; they drive there.

They can ride bicycles down to the beach.

[saibot]

Originally Posted by NewbieHere

They can ride bicycles down to the beach.

Yeah, I can ride my bike to the beach too. It's only 12 miles on pleasant bike trails. If you want to go the beach, you'll find a way to get there.

[saibot]

There are some interesting trends in Covid data in OC. If you look at the hospitalized vs ICU cases, the number of hospitalizations has been rising steadily since the middle of June. Between June 19 and today, it's increased 84% (from 344 to 634). But the number of ICU cases has only increased 47% during that time (from 138 to 203). There are more people in the hospital, but comparatively many fewer in the ICU. Are more younger people with less severe symptoms being hospitalized? Are treatments so much better now that fewer people end up in the ICU?

The number of new cases also rose steeply between mid- and late June, with up to a thousand new cases in a single day (about 1200 on June 22). The past ten days, that has gone flat, with as few as a dozen or two new cases per day. There's been a decrease in testing reported since July 2, but the number of new cases was dropping dramatically days before that.

The number of daily deaths has also gone almost completely flat, with only four deaths reported between June 24 and June 29 (the last date available). Again, reporting lag or ??

Any other thoughts on what may be going on?

[Finper]

Originally Posted by saibot

There are some interesting trends in Covid data in OC. If you look at the hospitalized vs ICU cases, the number of hospitalizations has been rising steadily since the middle of June. Between June 19 and today, it's increased 84% (from 344 to 634). But the number of ICU cases has only increased 47% during that time (from 138 to 203). There are more people in the hospital, but comparatively many fewer in the ICU. Are more younger people with less severe symptoms being hospitalized? Are treatments so much better now that fewer people end up in the ICU?

The number of new cases also rose steeply between mid- and late June, with up to a thousand new cases in a single day (about 1200 on June 22). The past ten days, that has gone flat, with as few as a dozen or two new cases per day. There's been a decrease in testing reported since July 2, but the number of new cases was dropping dramatically days before that.

The number of daily deaths has also gone almost completely flat, with only four deaths reported between June 24 and June 29 (the last date available). Again, reporting lag or ??

Any other thoughts on what may be going on?

My sister knows a nurse treating Covid patients and she said they are not putting many on ventilators anymore they’re having more success with straight oxygen. Also a lot more patients are younger now then in the start. I also think they know which meds to give them now. All combined is less deaths and less patients in the icu.

[NewbieHere]

More cases but less deaths, we have zero deaths today.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by saibot

There are some interesting trends in Covid data in OC. If you look at the hospitalized vs ICU cases, the number of hospitalizations has been rising steadily since the middle of June. Between June 19 and today, it's increased 84% (from 344 to 634). But the number of ICU cases has only increased 47% during that time (from 138 to 203). There are more people in the hospital, but comparatively many fewer in the ICU. Are more younger people with less severe symptoms being hospitalized? Are treatments so much better now that fewer people end up in the ICU?

Posted in the L.A. subforum; it may apply to O.C. as well.

Younger members of the population are apparently going hospitals, but aren't as sick as older adults who have--or had--the virus.

Gov. Gavin Newsom said Monday said the surge in coronavirus cases hitting California was due in part to younger people who might believe “they are invincible” but nonetheless are becoming sick from COVID-19.

These are younger adults — who Newsom called “the young invincibles” — who are testing positive for the disease, a trend that has become apparent as the economy has reopened and working-aged adults return to work and had resumed social gatherings.

“So a lot of these younger folks may be coming into hospitals, but with not as acute needs as what we were seeing in the past,” Newsom said. In L.A. County, working-age adults are making up an increasing share of the percentage of those who are hospitalized, while seniors are making up a declining share.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...us-newsom-says

[CA4Now]

Many in Orange County resist masks even as coronavirus cases soar:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...rus-cases-soar

When an employee told a group of 20-somethings they needed face masks to enter his fast-food restaurant, one woman fired off a stream of expletives. “Isn’t this Orange County?” snapped another member of the group. “We don’t have to wear masks!”

https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...-to-wear-masks

[Chava61]

The latest COVID19 figures for Orange County:
https://occovid19.ochealthinfo.com/coronavirus-in-oc

[citizensadvocate]

Its Interesting how back in March/April Orange County insisted their beaches to be open with no restrictions whatsoever while San Diego County cities insists to seal them off completely and the county while it technically allowed them to be open banned any water activity off shore in county jurisdiction*waters which is less than 1/2 mile off shore of cities.

Back in April Orange County fought tooth and nail against Newsom's order to close their local beaches down completely both state and local beaches. Protestors walked onto the sand and surfers/bodyboarders/joggers routinely jumped* over the three foot tall construction barricades lining the beach on the first full weekend and following weekdays of the closure order. Orange County cities and county authorities as well as county Sheriff also pledged not to enforce the closure at all.* Though on Fourth of July things completely flip flopped changed, Orange County and most of its cities with exception of San Clemente voluntarily announced*all beaches to be on full*lock down. And unlike during Newsom's "hard" beach closure in OC back in early May these cities took it much more seriously and installed 12 feet high chainlinked fences around the beaches and actually made sure no one snuck past the fence. San Diego on the flip side however insist their beach parking lots stay fully open despite recommendations to shut parking lots down or at least partially shut down. It appears the sun was rising from the west this time.

[CA4Now]

"Health experts are particularly concerned about the backlash about wearing masks, which has been especially pronounced in Orange County, where educators proposed a plan to reopen schools without masks or social distancing."

Coronavirus now spreading faster in suburbs like Orange County than in L.A. County:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...n-in-la-county