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You weren't asking me, but quite obviously I don't expect the poor people to dance for me before I donate money to the Salvation Army. It is completely different than thinking it would be a nice idea for a cheerleading squad to put on a performance to earn money. 2. totally. different. things.
Two different things, yes. But I think the girls are involved in a good, healthy activity and I would be happy to support them. Without expecting anything in return.
It's ok to do things for others without expecting anything in return. Really.
Two different things, yes. But I think the girls are involved in a good, healthy activity and I would be happy to support them. Without expecting anything in return.
It's ok to do things for others without expecting anything in return. Really.
Really, I am aware of that, as I donate quite often to people I don't know and will never see. Teaching kids that it is ok to panhandle for a non-necessity, is wrong IMO.
I'm the child of parents who were desperately poor during the Great Depression. Yes. It has affected the way I think. I make NO apologies for that.
You think my parents weren't told "too bad you are poor you can't go"? I'm here to tell you they were. They didn't become "disaffected". They grew up, one of them went to war, one of them was supporting her siblings when she was 16, and they worked their buns off for every single thing they had. Every. Single. Thing.
Yeah. It affected me. They raised me to work for what I have. I see some kid outside a supermarket holding out a jar asking me for money so he can take a trip someplace (while I have my own bills to pay) and I'm going to offer to let him wash was my car. I'm not worried about Junior growing up to be disaffected because everything isn't handed to him. How about we let him learn that life is hard and (especially in today's economy) it isn't necessairly fair? If things continue to go downhill it's a lesson a lot of people are going to have to learn.
You wash my car. I give you money. Seems fair to me.
It amazes me how much people's perspective shift.
Earn?
We want kids to excel in school, excel in after school activities, participate in their community, work at a part time job and now their reward for all of that hard work is they get called "entitled" if they DARE to put out a letter or can for a quarter so they can continue their hard work by going on to another level of competition.
Lets be really clear here. When these kids, many of whom are the same children in most danger of not graduating or other bad outcomes, drop out of these activities because they can no longer afford them, what do you think is going to happen?
Ugh, I am literally so disgusted with this thread I am done with this whole forum. I hope those girls get their chance and I am eternally grateful that there were kind hearted people who helped Danielle (my student) go to the competition she had WORKED so hard to get to. She worked 25+ hours a week (because her dad had a stroke her sophomore year) and would not have been able to wash your car between that job, school and her community service. She got to go, we placed second in the nation, and she EARNED a scholarship which is the only reason why she was able to go to college.
Let me jump in here a moment. You usually say, "No thanks" and walk away.
So, what you did was to get upset with a (formerly fat) person because you didn't like something she said, and then you said, "No thanks" and walked away and came on this site to post rants and raves about the situation.
Um, "No thanks". Let's have a new subject, because this one is nothing to cheer about.
Oh, I get it, are you maybe harboring a little tiny grudge because you yourself were not picked to be on the cheerleading squad as a young girl?
Really, I am aware of that, as I donate quite often to people I don't know and will never see. Teaching kids that it is ok to panhandle for a non-necessity, is wrong IMO.
Exaggerating the act of asking for donations into panhandling is wrong IMO.
Exaggerating the act of asking for donations into panhandling is wrong IMO.
OK, perhaps the "act" of asking for donations is not what I think is wrong. I think it is HOW it is done, or the assumption that the kids "deserve" it. If someone came up to me and politely and humbly asked for a small donation for something they'd been working very hard on, I might think of it as "a good cause." For a mom to come up and say I should be proud to be represented by her daughter is a bit much; and treating them to nice dinners with the left over money? please.
Because, FTMP, things like competitions are only known for a few months ahead of time, not years.
IRT Bolded: That sounds awfully, awfully bitter.
IKB stated that the students had been working toward this competition for 4 years. Plenty of time to think ahead as to how it would be paid for.
I am not bitter at all. I've paid my way, I've given when I felt it was a worthy cause, and I fully support area fund raisers. I just don't support taking the easy way out in life.
But, for the record, IKB is also saying that one student, due to circumstances beyond her control, needed donations to fund her trip. That would be a worthy cause in my book. An entire team thinking they can pay for a trip by holding up a jar is short-sighted and lazy.
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