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Old 09-25-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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I'm not going to be politically correct. I would totally disown them. That is way beyond anything I know of.
Disown them? Why?
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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I'm not going to bash anybodies opinion here, yet I find it shocking how some could say they'd disown your own child.

I find that hard to believe. It's their life, they have the ultimate decisions. Before I found City Data- I was pretty active with Yahoo Answers and I'd see so many questions with teenagers and young adults posting how their parents try to "make" them straight or make them like this, or that. What the heck is that kind of stuff?

I'm Catholic, so I won't post anything totally against my religion but some of us need to realize that you can't force your beliefs on a child. If your child is gay and tells you, we should be understanding, not run and punish them for it as if it's their fault. People can't help how they feel.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:07 PM
 
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I'm not going to be politically correct. I would totally disown them. That is way beyond anything I know of.
I suppose that would be your choice. And I know that there are people who have done just that. But I can't imagine disowning a child who up until that very moment was a cherished member of your family.

Out of curiosity, do you have kids?

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Old 09-25-2012, 02:24 PM
 
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It's a choice for you to wear opposite sex clothing, and wear your hair like the opposite sex, and talk, walk, and act like the opposite sex. These things are all choices an individual makes. It doesn't matter what you feel inside. It is not natural.
Yes, because God deemed pants for Adam & a dress for Eve. & so gender norms were created!

You realize Jesus most likely had long hair & wore clothing that would be considered feminine in Western society today, right?

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Where do we draw the line? At pedophilia? Bestiality? What makes being transgender any different than these?
Children & animals cannot consent to sex like adult homosexuals & gender has nothing to do with sex.

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I will never co-sign anything other than the natural that God put together.
Then you should love homosexuals & trans-gendered people as God has made them that way or they would not exist.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:24 PM
 
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Yes, I agree. You can't force your personal beliefs onto your children. I do not have children but could not image disowning them being a child disowned by a parent. Even being disowned, unconditional love remains. I wish for the same.

I do wonder, does transgender relate to "doing gender" or is it merely the way one dresses?
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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I am curious about the issue of parents with transgender children. Especially parents that are used to traditional gender roles. As a parent, how would you react to your son, who is in his early 20's, wanting to act on his transgender desires? Would it be accepted by you or would you disown him?
There is a huge gap between acceptance and disowning.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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There is a huge gap between acceptance and disowning.
Perhaps from the point of view of the disapproving parents. From the point of view of the disapproved of or disowned child the gap is very narrow indeed.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Well given that homesexuality is observable all over nature, I would call it natural. I agree 500% with PJJC that the only thing not "okay" with it is people like you getting your panties in a bunch over it.


One draws the line at a person's lack of right to hurt another creature.
Homosexuality is observable all over nature? Are you talking about actual sexual behavior or dominance behavior? Many confuse those two. I have two spayed females dogs and one appears to try to "ride" the other one. The dog is not homosexual. Or, is homosexual more about dominance and that is where the parallel lies? I have often wondered this after reading the types of "interactions" that involve dominance and submission, physical harm, etc. Natural? Not in my world!

With pedophilia, they don't always act on their feelings so is that OK to desire children for sexual partners, that seem OK to you? Another kind of "normal"? They are not actually physically hurting the child although some of the sickos engage in watching porn that involves children and seem to think that doesn't harm anyone. They are in line to have their needs met also and are hoping the being PC and not wanting to make them feel bad about themselves will prevail.

Don't some become part man and part woman? That normal?

There are always "norms" established and "ranges".
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Don't some become part man and part woman? That normal?
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What'd they do? Kiss only 1 elbow?
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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Homosexuality is observable all over nature?
Yes. Animals perform sex with their own gender. Some scientist speculate that it is a matter of natural population control.

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Are you talking about actual sexual behavior or dominance behavior? Many confuse those two.
I am sorry. What does sex have to do with dominance behavior?

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I have two spayed females dogs and one appears to try to "ride" the other one.
I am not suggesting that every animal will exhibit this behavior.
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The dog is not homosexual. Or, is homosexual more about dominance and that is where the parallel lies? I have often wondered this after reading the types of "interactions" that involve dominance and submission, physical harm, etc. Natural? Not in my world!
mmm. Maybe time to expand your world.

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With pedophilia, they don't always act on their feelings so is that OK to desire children for sexual partners, that seem OK to you? Another kind of "normal"?
I am not even gracing that with a response. I addressed pedophilia elsewhere.

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They are not actually physically hurting the child although some of the sickos engage in watching porn that involves children and seem to think that doesn't harm anyone. They are in line to have their needs met also and are hoping the being PC and not wanting to make them feel bad about themselves will prevail.

Don't some become part man and part woman? That normal?

I don't care about normal. That is all you.
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