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Old 10-17-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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She said "Dad can I have a new phone for Christmas"

She needed a new phone anyways and if did not cost too much. Phone was 180 Euro and 20 euro per month for normal phone, internet, and sms flat plus 120 minutes all networks.

I am a single dad and I work full time- if she need to contact me at work she writes me on Facebook, yesterday she missed her bus and was able look up the bus schedule online...
Regardless of my stance, this post is reasonable and heartwarming.

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Old 10-17-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Kids with smarphones are almost never into the programming and technology of them, they just like the games, music, messages, and so on.

Smartphones are cool toys but I would rather my kids learn first how to actually converse with people and do something other than play with their smartphone.

In our workplace, we have problems with some of these employees with cell phone addictions.
This is the bottom line. Too many addicted to these things for all the wrong reasons.

They didn't call their predecessors "crackberries" for nothing.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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There is no convincing here. You get a job, then get a cell phone. I am not paying for stupid conversations with people you JUST saw at school!
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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I find it curious that you think giving a child a smart phone abdicates you from parental responsibility? The 2 are not mutually exclusive.
Where the heck did I say such a thing? My kids are 12 and 13. They have flip phones because we have not had a land line since 2005. They don't need smart phones.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What could he say to convince me to buy him a smartphone...

"Hey, mom! Here's my med school acceptance letter!"
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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Mine will never be able to convince me until they can pay for it themselves and not with money grandma and grandpa gave them. Money from the job they will have. Even then it'll be rough.

Giving a kid a smartphone completely removes so much power from the parent. Not that I plan to rule like an overlord.. but I don't need to be giving a 10 year old that much freedom.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:49 PM
 
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Giving a kid a smartphone completely removes so much power from the parent. Not that I plan to rule like an overlord.. but I don't need to be giving a 10 year old that much freedom.
I am curious about this statement. Would you mind elaborating or explaining what you mean?
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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I did not want my daughter lost. She is in college. Not having a smartphone in college is akin to not having decent shoes in elementary school.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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I am curious about this statement. Would you mind elaborating or explaining what you mean?
When you hand your KID ( 17 and under ) a smart-phone. You are removing yourself from a position of power and giving your child a powerful resource to get around limits you have put in place.

1. Now, instead of having to talk on a real phone that you can actually hear they silently will make plans. It used to be hiding in a closet to share gossip with one or two (party lines) friends. Now it's the entire grade or multiple grades all talking to each other the entire evening after school, right there in your living room. Making plans for the evening or weekend and you have no clue about it. "They" the group starts to behave as if parents have no say in anything, I've seen it with my own eyes. Then when 8 friends are going somewhere and you as the parent have to say no, you look like the worst parent in the world.. when maybe those other 8 kids who are "going" haven't even asked their parents yet! The point is things used to be "I will ask my mom and dad" your kid would put the phone down and ask you. Now, it is not. That is what you are doing by giving a kid a smartphone with access to all of their acquaintances (notice I didnt say friends) 24 hours a day. Let's save the fact that you are giving your kid a cell phone that can share pictures of ANYTHING for another discussion.

2. Kids used to have to plan sneaking out - now, with a smart phone they don't. They can arrange meetings late at night without the parents even knowing and dreadful things can happen. (For example: Ending up raped at 13 and 14 years old - http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/201...reviewed/?_r=0) These girls were at home drinking while their parents were sleeping. They had no plans to go out until a much older guy texted them asking if they wanted to go to a party. Yes, they are idiots, yes it's def their fault. However, if phones (and all technology) had been confiscated that text inviting them out would have not made it to them till the next morning. They would have still been morons for drinking at 13 and 14, but they would have been virgin morons and not rape victims (at least for that night).

There are countless stories about stuff like this. Kids, children, are NOT able to mentally handle the responsibility that smartphones and everything that comes with them entail. I personally know parents who are restricting their kids from having anything but phones that can send plain old texts, no cameras, no videos, no apps and THEY STILL take them away at night. Guess which kids seem the happiest to just be alive? Yup.. those kids.

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Old 10-17-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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Sidenote to the above story about #2, if you want to see how entirely crazy everything gets in the digital domain. Click this video.
Anonymous #OpMaryville - YouTube

After this was posted, this happened.

Mo. Lt. Governor calls for convening grand jury to make “final call” on Maryville rape case

There is a LOT of crazy stuff out there and YOU are the ones who choose to allow it to happen to your family. It all starts with a simple text message.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/16/tech/w...lle-rape-case/

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