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I'm happy, in fact more than happy for my tax dollars to go to short term help for somebody like Gcs15 and the countless others who need a hand up from unfortunate circumstances, illness or accident. That is what the welfare system is for. It's the long term welfare recipient who depend on the dole and then pass that mindset of dependance on to the next generation which ticks me off.
I'd rather my tax dollars go to that than stupidity like do- nothing congress and Boehner filing lawsuit against the POTUS for the same things he praised his predecessor for doing while in office.
Wow. You sure know how to take a statement out of context. Did you decide to get in that accident?
I didn't take anything out of context. She said "yes I will remember welfare is for people who make stupid decisions". It's not. It's for people who tried doing things right and something uncontrollable caused them to lose their job, be in the hospital, need help. I didn't decide anything other then to leave work and go home. Last thing I remembered was being in the car talking, then I blacked out and woke up five days later. If welfare wasn't there as a safety net I would have been stuck with $500,000 worth of medical bills, no job, no anything. That's the point. People don't *want* to be on welfare! Its not something you grow up saying "wow, this is something I want to do with my life." It is something that sucks, to be honest. But it can happen to anyone. You think you are doing everything right and either 1) someone else's bad decision causes you to lose everything (like in my case and many others who have been injured by drunk drivers) or 2) something uncontrollable happens (like cancer). You can still do everything right and by the book and end up needing help.
And, as recently as a couple of hours ago, Ivory was still joining in on the anti-Obama bashing on POC.
Youngest daughter gets $1000/month in SS benefits, does she not? Let her put herself through school.
You may call those that need welfare stupid. In your case, it's pure karma. I apologize in advance for not offering sympathy and constructive criticism, but it's been shown post after post, you aren't interested in any advice that requires you to do some self-examination and soul searching.
Please stop making this political. One can use "welfare" and still be anti-Obama. It is allowed, you know. I don't agree with the decisions Ivory is making in regards to this situation, but the multiple posts basically saying for her daughter to get an abortion even after Ivory said her daughter doesn't want one under any circumstances and the anti-conservative posts are getting ridiculous.
Please stop making this political. One can use "welfare" and still be anti-Obama. It is allowed, you know. I don't agree with the decisions Ivory is making in regards to this situation, but the multiple posts basically saying for her daughter to get an abortion even after Ivory said her daughter doesn't want one under any circumstances and the anti-conservative posts are getting ridiculous.
You're a bit late to this party. Ivory is the one calling welfare recipients stupid on one hand, while continuing to join in the anti-liberal( those who support social programs) threads on POC.
Nobody has recommended abortion. A few people have brought it up as a viable option, which it is, however it certainly is not Ivory's call.
I can't think of a more political subject that welfare. And this thread has been about the daughter getting on welfare for many reasons, one of which is her parents' unwillingness to house and support their daughter and her baby.
Please stop making this political. One can use "welfare" and still be anti-Obama. It is allowed, you know. I don't agree with the decisions Ivory is making in regards to this situation, but the multiple posts basically saying for her daughter to get an abortion even after Ivory said her daughter doesn't want one under any circumstances and the anti-conservative posts are getting ridiculous.
Oh come now. Ivory called the ACA "Obummercare" by about the second post. There's nothing anti conservative here, per se, it's anti hypocrisy. Turnabout is fair play.
Please stop making this political. One can use "welfare" and still be anti-Obama. It is allowed, you know. I don't agree with the decisions Ivory is making in regards to this situation, but the multiple posts basically saying for her daughter to get an abortion even after Ivory said her daughter doesn't want one under any circumstances and the anti-conservative posts are getting ridiculous.
Except Ivory's daughter doesn't need welfare. People who **** and moan about 'welfare queens' and all sound awfully hypocritical when they suggest someone should quit their job and minimize income in order to get as much welfare and other government benefits as possible. I thought conservatives were all about "only people who really need welfare should get it!!"
Ivory's daughter does not fall into that category.
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What about dh retired, dd#2 almost ready to leave for college and my teacher salary do you think puts us in position to support this baby? You might want to buy a clue here.
My solution is to give this baby to someone who can care for it but I don't get my choice. We have to make the best of dd's choice. I'm not happy with or proud of where she is but it's kind of a done deal. I am glad that she got a job and plans to work to support her baby. That will minimize the help they need and that's really the best she can do other than to give the baby up.
We know enough to know your husband was able to retire and that the social security offered monthly $$ for your minor child of a retired person; and that you were ready to turn that money down because you didn't need it. We know DD1 had a bedroom in your house up until 1 month ago that is now sitting empty. We know that you somehow managed to keep your job for the next school year. It isn't that you CAN'T help, it's that you WON'T help.
As I said up thread, you like to say you "have no choice." BS. You have choices. You offered up only one solution and then passed her on to the taxpayers to deal with.
She could move into her old room.
She could move into an apartment that you generously help her find and put down a deposit on.
You could subsidize her living expenses until she's able to get on her feet.
You could keep her on your insurance so she gets the best prenatal care possible.
You could stock her refrigerator.
You could help her shop for furniture at garage sales.
You could help her budget to see if she even needs much help from you or the government.
But no. You sign her up for welfare as soon as the stick turns pink.
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