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I don't know what she said but that isn't the principle of the matter. The point was to teach me that it's NEVER ok to take something that isn't yours. If it was an accident you make it right. I don't go to your house and pocket things just because they are inexpensive.
The grape-tasting thing is odd to me. While I don't do it, I see people doing it all the time. There's almost always a produce employee in the section at the grocery store and they never say a word to the tasters. I don't think it's wrong to taste a grape to see if you like that variety before you buy it. In fact, if you ask the produce people which type of grape is sweeter, they'll tell you to taste them. I guess I am assigning morality a numerical value. We all do that. Is it just as wrong to stomp on a cockroach as it would be to stomp on a 4-lb Yorkie?
Of course, I also used to let my kids eat from a box of crackers or whatever in the store and then pay at the end when I checked out. No one ever said anything to me about it. I suppose it's conceivable that the store could catch on fire and then we'd leave having consumed 9 crackers that we didn't pay for... luckily, it never happened!
Has it? I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted because their baby swiped a pack of gum. I'm not sure that the justice system gets involved in tiny matters like this.
A baby and a pack of gum is not the issue being addressed. The OP stated that other people cannot decide for him what is or is not "moral." That view is incorrect as society has made the collective decision on many fronts regarding what behavior is allowed.
I think some markets are fine with a person tasting a grape to see if they like that variety - for some of the new candy flavored grapes, I've even seen a bowl set up and labeled as a tester. And of course, they will give you a taste of something at the deli if you want to try it before you order it, or have samples out like Costco (but they always have one of those crunchy coated sushi rolls that I don't like instead of something good! lol!)
On the other hand, I remember when grocery stores used to have loose, individually wrapped candies - and they ended up putting out a locked box with a slot in the top with a sign saying it was a nickel for an individual piece of candy. Obviously some people felt that they were entitled to unlimited "tastes" every time they came in.
The grape-tasting thing is odd to me. While I don't do it, I see people doing it all the time. There's almost always a produce employee in the section at the grocery store and they never say a word to the tasters. I don't think it's wrong to taste a grape to see if you like that variety before you buy it. In fact, if you ask the produce people which type of grape is sweeter, they'll tell you to taste them. I guess I am assigning morality a numerical value. We all do that. Is it just as wrong to stomp on a cockroach as it would be to stomp on a 4-lb Yorkie?
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I know the grape thing is kind of weird. My mom is old school and Mrs moral herself. I doubt she even kill an insect if she could avoid it.. I'm just saying, as a kid it taught me something valuable. Even though the grape thing might be dumb, I figured at the time, if tasting 1 grape without asking, than surly taking anything other than a grape would be an ever bigger no no.
When it comes to taking store merchandise/money that is no different than if I would reach in your bag and steal a dollar. If it is by accident, try to make it right. It's that simple.
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I think some markets are fine with a person tasting a grape to see if they like that variety - for some of the new candy flavored grapes, I've even seen a bowl set up and labeled as a tester. And of course, they will give you a taste of something at the deli if you want to try it before you order it, or have samples out like Costco (but they always have one of those crunchy coated sushi rolls that I don't like instead of something good! lol!)
On the other hand, I remember when grocery stores used to have loose, individually wrapped candies - and they ended up putting out a locked box with a slot in the top with a sign saying it was a nickel for an individual piece of candy. Obviously some people felt that they were entitled to unlimited "tastes" every time they came in.
I think grapes are considered "fair game" to taste - you can look into the bags of grapes and usually see where several have been "tasted". But don't try that with a pomegranate. ;D
I recently learned that you can make your own bag of grapes by taking just a portion of one of the pre-bagged (but not sealed) grapes that are offered. But no. You can get a plastic produce bag and pull a portion of the grapes in the prepacked sack out and buy them.
I think some markets are fine with a person tasting a grape to see if they like that variety - for some of the new candy flavored grapes, I've even seen a bowl set up and labeled as a tester. And of course, they will give you a taste of something at the deli if you want to try it before you order it, or have samples out like Costco (but they always have one of those crunchy coated sushi rolls that I don't like instead of something good! lol!)
On the other hand, I remember when grocery stores used to have loose, individually wrapped candies - and they ended up putting out a locked box with a slot in the top with a sign saying it was a nickel for an individual piece of candy. Obviously some people felt that they were entitled to unlimited "tastes" every time they came in.
Right, because people don't know their limits. I see kids sometimes in the store and the parents gave them an apple to eat, or a banana. Ok, so these things are sold by weight. How are you suppose to determine the price now?
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Right, because people don't know their limits. I see kids sometimes in the store and the parents gave them an apple to eat, or a banana. Ok, so these things are sold by weight. How are you suppose to determine the price now?
Just put another banana on the scale.
I often eat while I'm in the grocery store. Prepared sandwiches from the deli aisle, danish wedding cookies . . . yum.
Geez...there was no lesson to teach. He was a baby who didn't know what he was doing. He was a walking baby...but still, a baby.
Two year old vary wildly in developmental ability. Even so most people are already teaching their toddler "we don't take things that don't belong to us". Whether it is giving back toys that take from other kids, or not grabbing off of moms plate, or giving back the necklace they stole from a store, those are all lessons that most 2 yos can grasp. Do you really think a 2yo shouldnt be taught the difference between "mine" and "not mine"?
The grape-tasting thing is odd to me. While I don't do it, I see people doing it all the time. There's almost always a produce employee in the section at the grocery store and they never say a word to the tasters. I don't think it's wrong to taste a grape to see if you like that variety before you buy it. In fact, if you ask the produce people which type of grape is sweeter, they'll tell you to taste them. I guess I am assigning morality a numerical value. We all do that. Is it just as wrong to stomp on a cockroach as it would be to stomp on a 4-lb Yorkie?
Of course, I also used to let my kids eat from a box of crackers or whatever in the store and then pay at the end when I checked out. No one ever said anything to me about it. I suppose it's conceivable that the store could catch on fire and then we'd leave having consumed 9 crackers that we didn't pay for... luckily, it never happened!
You really don't see the difference between stealing something and opening a box of crackers, eating some and then paying for the entire box?
And yes, parents who teach their kids to eat things sold by weight before buying them are doing the same thing. As for whether or not the stores yell at you, that isn't really the point.
And yes, stomping an animal just to stomp it is the same thing, regardless of the animal. Would you let your kid stomp the hissing cockroaches on display at the zoo? Probably not. The reason some people stomp the ones at home, is because we know they spread disease. Hopefully we are not teaching kids that killing things just to kill them is not good, right?
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