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I think you're saying that nothing the boys mother does would force the prosecution to include jail time. Well, again.. If you're just going to ignore the evidence I've given that shows that public opinion, which the mother is certainly trying to sway, can influence whether jail time is given, or whether a plea deal is accepted by the judge.. No point further arguing that. We'll see how it turns out.
Also.. The boy in this case.. I'll have to search around for it.. But.. at least what I've seen.. This really seemed a pretty clear case where she kept after him. I mean, to the point where this almost felt more like a full on rape case than statutory rape. Not a situation where the kid took what he could get and the parents found text messages or something. There was a line somewhere about him being very upset when he was with her I seem to recall.
Why the discrepancy here? One gets 18 to life, other gets probation? And they were both adult female and underage male.
From what I have read the prosecution has already made the plea deal and now the case goes before a Judge in May to determine the terms of the probation. Could she sway the judge to reject the plea deal, sure, not the prosecution.
Who knows the difference with the limited information in the article. Underlying circumstances may be different, plea deal may be different or non existent, different judge, etc. Why did Brock Turner and others get only 6 months jail time or probation for rape while others get years.
From what I have read the prosecution has already made the plea deal and now the case goes before a Judge in May to determine the terms of the probation. Could she sway the judge to reject the plea deal, sure, not the prosecution.
Who knows the difference with the limited information in the article. Underlying circumstances may be different, plea deal may be different or non existent, different judge, etc. Why did Brock Turner and others get only 6 months jail time or probation for rape while others get years.
Maybe the differences between the 2 cases is...Enriquez was a teacher. Serano was a lunch lady.
A student would have a harder time avoiding the influence of a teacher, than a lunch lady.
Maybe the differences between the 2 cases is...Enriquez was a teacher. Serano was a lunch lady.
A student would have a harder time avoiding the influence of a teacher, than a lunch lady.
Could be, an authority figure would definitely have a greater burden of responsibility. I assume there is a variety of circumstances the judge takes into account. Honestly the courts are not fair and sometimes judgement is just the present whim of the judge.
Something else that's half formulated in my mind, and MIGHT have an influence on this...
I notice that Serrano looks Latino. I also notice in the other link regarding the teacher who had sex with the teen boy...SHE has a hispanic sounding name.
I notice that in SOME hispanic cultures, it's not unusual for very very young (13, 14 yrs old) hispanic girls to be in relationships with significantly older guys...and their families don't think anything odd about it at all. The families don't disaprove, and it's just part of their culture. I'm not saying right or wrong, or even every Hispanic community is like that. I just know it is with some people.
I wonder if THAT aspect has some influence on these situations.
Something else that's half formulated in my mind, and MIGHT have an influence on this...
I notice that Serrano looks Latino. I also notice in the other link regarding the teacher who had sex with the teen boy...SHE has a hispanic sounding name.
I notice that in SOME hispanic cultures, it's not unusual for very very young (13, 14 yrs old) hispanic girls to be in relationships with significantly older guys...and their families don't think anything odd about it at all. The families don't disaprove, and it's just part of their culture. I'm not saying right or wrong, or even every Hispanic community is like that. I just know it is with some people.
I wonder if THAT aspect has some influence on these situations.
I would hope that had no influence on the plea deal or the judges decision. Obviously the boys parents arent ok with it regardless of cultural attitudes.
I would hope that had no influence on the plea deal or the judges decision. Obviously the boys parents arent ok with it regardless of cultural attitudes.
Do you think all people convicted of crimes should have their children taken from them?
She was convicted of having sex with a minor. This dosent necessarily men she is a child predator as in she will continue to do this. There have been cases where rapists have been granted shared custody of their child born of rape.
Someone mentioned Mary Kay Letourneau. After serving her time they married and had a second child together.
Child brides have not be uncommon in our history. I'm not supporting it, just pointing it out.
I have a feeling the son didn't want her locked up.
Right a teenage boy who was probably getting a lot of high fives for bagging an older woman who was a teacher. Others will only fantasize about bagging a teacher
I find it odd that the boys mother wants full custody.
I was dating a 21 year old college guy when I was 13 or 14.
Things were different back then. Older men used to marry teenage girls 50+ years ago. I don't doubt that pretty many people have grandparents where the grandmother was a teen or young teen, the grandfather was legally an adult.
But she wasn't a teacher and a 13 year old's brain is obviously NOT developed like an adults nor is he able to comprehend that he was NOT giving his actual consent "bagging" an older lady
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