Can a New York sports fan survive in Philly?

[FBJ]

Originally Posted by pman

actually the phillies rate pretty well. most cities are mostly football cities thoug, football is the lowest common denominator like TVsportsguy

Excuse me?

[UDResident]

Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

The people in this city are bandwagon fans since they only show up when the team is winning. The sixers haven;t had a fan base since 2003. That is the same for all the teams in this city

That's hilarious coming from a New York fan.

Originally Posted by Truth11

Agreed with previous post that maybe they can only afford to go to some games

At least somebody "gets it"... however it seems you find that funny?

Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

The fans in this city are ungrateful and expect the teams to go undefeated every season. Not sure where that attitude came from since winning a championship is not easy in any sport.

Again... hilarious coming from a New York fan.

Originally Posted by Truth11

Overconfident and overcocky?...

Again... hilarious coming from a New York fan.

Originally Posted by Summersm343

What?! Lol. First of all, that happens in every city. Second of all, I would argue that Philadelphia certainly has the most loyal fans. Our teams don't win often but we are still die hard and passionate about them. SO we don't really support one team... who cares? We still have legions of die hard fans who support the Phillies, Eagles, Flyers and Union through thick and thin, no matter what. IDK why the Sixers haven't been popular lately but just because we don't support one team doesn't mean we are bandwagon fans. You people are ridiculous. Stop overacting and name calling to everything.

With all due respect, you don't speak for all of the fans in the area. The Sixers have a fan-base. Everything else I agree with though. Only Cleveland really can feel our pain.

Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

I don't blame the fans totally it's the philly sports media that controls who the fans root for in this town. Whenever one team loses, the local media encourages fans to forget about it and move to the next team.

Just like how the eagles would lose all those years in the NFC championship and right after that the local media would say....."Go Flyers" Which was dumb because not all eagles fans watch hockey.

No... they only influence bandwagon fans.

Sorry.

Originally Posted by Summersm343

True lol. The media does tend to do that. But look at the Eagles... they haven't won anything since the 60s, although they have been to the Super Bowl several times since then, just haven't won... but the fans still support them. I just think Philadelphia doesn't really care for the NBA... because I know college basketball is popular and widely supported.

Again, you don't speak for all of us. Plenty of people care for the NBA in this area.

College basketball definitely is the bigger deal of the two but can you really blame people, when you have the Big 5/City Six, all of that tradition, and live in such a basketball-talent rich metro?

Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

This has always been a Football town.

No... it hasn't. It used to be a baseball town, then a baseball and basketball town, then a baseball, basketball, and football town. Then it became a football and HOCKEY town. How do people always forget the Flyers? Now, the demographic changes and the improvement of the city has put new emphasis on the Phillies and to an extent, the Sixers.

Originally Posted by Summersm343

I think it's more of a baseball city now.

No, it definitely isn't. It's a football (and to a lesser extent hockey) town, with baseball and basketball having solid, loyal fanbases that increases when they win.

[UDResident]

I will give you New Yorkers the fact that New York is probably the best place to play pro basketball out of anywhere. It seems that civic pride and basketball go hand in hand in that city, and it also seems people in that city feel the same connection to the Knicks that we do with the Eagles and Flyers in our city. Well, depending on their background that is. It makes sense given the way football and hockey have been seen as less "high-class" than pro basketball or baseball for so many years.

People around here simply love the game of basketball. We root for the Sixers of course (because we're loyal, die-hard Philly fans) but probably due to the fact that the Sixers have only been here since the '60s, there isn't that same "defend our team and city at all costs" mentality that there is with our other teams. As long as you're not a Lakers fan, people really don't care who you root for. Plus, going to basketball games is seen as a luxury by many, which is the fault of the NBA and David Stern. The new owners are doing a good job of changing that, but it's going to take time. As it is, Doug Collins is really hampering their efforts by the fact that he doesn't play young guys like Moultrie (and Brackins before him) enough if he has somebody else at that position. It's hard for the fans to identify with players who they know aren't going to be there long (with the exceptions of Jrue, Turner, and Thad) That, and I don't think Turner really fits this area or its fanbase.

I guarantee you though, that if Philadelphia got another basketball team, you'd see die-hard, intense fanbases on either side. People around here need a reason to support a team that way. They need to feel a personal connection, the way they do with the Eagles, Phillies, Flyers, etc. What better way to tap into that than with an inner-city rivalry?

[FBJ]

Originally Posted by UDResident

That's hilarious coming from a New York fan.

At least somebody "gets it"... however it seems you find that funny?

Again... hilarious coming from a New York fan.

Again... hilarious coming from a New York fan.

With all due respect, you don't speak for all of the fans in the area. The Sixers have a fan-base. Everything else I agree with though. Only Cleveland really can feel our pain.

No... they only influence bandwagon fans.

Sorry.

Again, you don't speak for all of us. Plenty of people care for the NBA in this area.

College basketball definitely is the bigger deal of the two but can you really blame people, when you have the Big 5/City Six, all of that tradition, and live in such a basketball-talent rich metro?

No... it hasn't. It used to be a baseball town, then a baseball and basketball town, then a baseball, basketball, and football town. Then it became a football and HOCKEY town. How do people always forget the Flyers? Now, the demographic changes and the improvement of the city has put new emphasis on the Phillies and to an extent, the Sixers.

No, it definitely isn't. It's a football (and to a lesser extent hockey) town, with baseball and basketball having solid, loyal fanbases that increases when they win.

The media creates "bandwagon fans"

[UDResident]

Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

The media creates "bandwagon fans"

Right, but the point is that the media doesn't influence real fans. No real fan needs to be told anything by the media, except of course the news of something happening.

[itiano 718]

but dont u think that there are yankee, giants or knicks fans in philadelphia and even south jersey

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by itiano 718

but dont u think that there are yankee, giants or knicks fans in philadelphia and even south jersey

Probably but the number is so minuscule that they are pretty much irrelevant in the area.

[Truth11]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

I think it's more of a baseball city now.

That's because the eagles haven't been winning;

[FBJ]

Originally Posted by Truth11

That's because the eagles haven't been winning;

It was still a football town after the phillies won the World Series

[Truth11]

Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

It was still a football town after the phillies won the World Series

I don't doubt that...I've seen more people wearing their eagles jerseys to church than phillies