Paid Protesters coming to Phoenix area? (Maricopa: crime, felony, bankrupt)

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by TempeAZnative

Project Veritas proved the left is paying protesters but of course if it doesn't come from CNN it's fake to you. Atleast we've learned the left is completely unhinged and hell bent on destroying our Republic.

LOL, it's not proof if it comes from a propaganda machine. James O'Keefe isn't exactly doing well rounded journalism. Provide an objective source (no, not CNN either) and this fear will look a little less insane. In the meantime, you really shouldn't be so gullible.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by TempeAZnative

Must be nice to live in such a bubble you are blinded by what the leaders you follow are doing.

I don't get why a conservative didn't just play a liberal, respond, collect $$ and expose the whole thing? Seems like a gimme but whaddainoe?

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

I don't get why a conservative didn't just play a liberal, respond, collect $$ and expose the whole thing? Seems like a gimme but whaddainoe?

Right. Instead of relying on extremist websites to prove their point, if this setup were real, why not get the solid proof that would be so easy to obtain? Perhaps because it doesn't exist? It's like they don't care and just want to continue this false narrative.

[man4857]

Originally Posted by Juram

If you show up to a protest with a gas mask then you are pretty much announcing to everyone around you that you are there to start some #$#!.

Would you think the same if someone showed up armed with a gun instead of a gas mask?

[Zippyman]

Originally Posted by man4857

Would you think the same if someone showed up armed with a gun instead of a gas mask?

320,275 Arizonans currently have concealed weapons permits (and a permit is not even necessary to carry concealed - or openly, for that matter in Arizona ). There are statistics out there that clearly show your "average" concealed carrier is less likely to get into legal trouble than your "average" police officer.

Strictly based on the numbers of permits, you're surrounded by lots of people who have a full legal *right* to carry firearms whenever you're in public in Arizona. You have a right to carry a gun here, as long as you're not a felon.

I have no interest in wearing a mask or disguise of any type (including a gas mask) - so I don't even know if wearing a mask in public is legal in Arizona, I know it's illegal in some areas of the country.

Bottom line, no. Carrying a gun doesn't mean you're looking for trouble, any more than having a fire extinguisher means you're hoping to have a fire, or carrying band-aids in your wallet or purse means you like to bleed.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by Zippyman

This might be the scariest attitude I've seen expressed so far. Much scarier than "nazis" or "Antifa" being present in Phoenix. Shooting someone in the nads with a pepper beanbag is against police protocol because it can kill them *and* because the police aren't there to torture dissidents.

Whomever took that shot (if it was intentionally placed there) broke the law while wearing a badge.

Tossing a teargas canister (by hand) back at the person who propelled it at you with a gun is, in my view - appropriate. The only reason police are allowed to use teargas is because it's "harmless".

Think about cops intentionally shooting people in the crotch - not during a trump rally, but maybe at a meeting of the (aptly named) corporation commission, or the council when they do a taxpayer giveaway & you might like to protest that. There are times in a democracy when normal, reasonable people need to show up & face their government to protest an imminent wrong. If the cops are allowed to shoot you in the junk for that, then they can only blame themselves when protesters get even more violent.

First off Zippy, it's a Pepper Ball NOT a " Pepper bean bag" or as the news claimed at the time a "rubber bullet". Secondly, while I'd kid about the cop that shot it deserving a round of drinks for being such a good shot I can tell you from experience it was a luck shot, in other words it was the BAD luck of the wanna be Anti-Faaa terrorist.
Thankfully he spent the night in the E.R. for burns to his hand from picking up the CS can and he said on the news this morning "I'm sore down there". GOOD!
Play a stupid game win a stupid prize.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by Zippyman

According to the reports here- you've got video evidence of the police using deadly force against an unarmed protester (a shot to the junk is deadly), further - in this thread you've got someone who claimed to have witnessed someone getting shot directly by a rubber bullet (rubber bullets are supposed to be bounced off the ground, not shot directly at a person).

If the cops are improperly using "non lethal" force in a *lethal* manner, it's absolutely no different than just pulling out their glocks and shooting unarmed protesters (except for the "deniability" part). That's nothing to be proud of.

NO RUBBER BULLETS WERE USED so that "report" was a complete lie that you and some of the "resistance" are buying into.

Secondly, had the Anti-Faaa and their wannabes not tossed rocks,bottles and at least one canister that ignited (yes there is video) at the cops then none of this would have happened.
Third, when you come to an event with a full face gas mask, exactly what are you coming for? It isn't for non violence.
Forth, when you see a riot jumping off and the cops are clearing the streets you LEAVE if you don't want to accept the consequences of staying which may mean you get gassed/pepper sprayed/pepper balled.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by jjpike

Sorry, but that entire scene last night on national TV and in today's news, makes Phoenix look like a heaven for bigotry and hate. I know that's not true by what I generally read here, but you really should protect your image better. That looney show last night was embarassing.

Really? How so? The bigots and haters were dealt with by the Phoenix Police promptly and properly and sent home albeit with the smell of CS gas and pepper balls all over them.

Maybe they'll think twice before bringing their bigoted and hateful violence to a peaceful Phoenix event in the future...

[KurtAZ]

Originally Posted by Zippyman

320,275 Arizonans currently have concealed weapons permits (and a permit is not even necessary to carry concealed - or openly, for that matter in Arizona ). There are statistics out there that clearly show your "average" concealed carrier is less likely to get into legal trouble than your "average" police officer.
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Probably because your "average" police officer has to deal with the dregs of society every day?

[KurtAZ]

Originally Posted by man4857

Would you think the same if someone showed up armed with a gun instead of a gas mask?

You mean like the guy that was arrested?

Daireus Stokes: three counts of aggravated assault on police, three counts of disorderly conduct, one count of resisting arrest and three counts of threatening and intimidating. According to court documents obtained by 3TV/CBS 5, Stokes had a handgun with him and threatened officers before he was arrested. Documents state that officers ordered Stokes not to touch his gun but he did not comply.