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Old 01-18-2019, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Earlier this week, a 14 year old boy was shot and killed by a Tempe police officer. The boy was a burglary suspect that the officer was chasing.
When the boy stopped he pulled an airsoft gun (they look real in most cases) and the officer shot him in fear of his own life.
Now protesters with signs that say "stop cop killers" and other crap are on the streets.
I will assume that in this case it would have been OK for the cop to have risk his life and take a chance that the gun was not real?
LEO types have a right to live and go home at night too.
Perhaps the parents of the boy should have taught him better.
The protests are embarrassing.

 
Old 01-18-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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It all boils down to two facts that gun control proponents
have not been able to address:

(1) There is a direct relationship between restrictive gun control laws and increased crime. Almost all gun control laws have been statistically proven to be linked to increases in crime.

(2) Criminals by definition do not obey the law. Using a firearm to harm another is already illegal.
Proponents might want to spend more time thinking about the facts, and less time writing about feelings that won't fix the problem.




Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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The key term in your post, Keninaz . . . is PARENTS.

Unfortunately, most of these "kids" roaming the streets committing crimes as in this care do not have PARENTS . . . more like "Egg Donors" as they run wild with little to no guidance and/or respect for others taught at home.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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Nothing wrong with wanting to see the body cam and have an autopsy. To call the cops racist is just stupid and only further degrades what that word actually means.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Not the first and certainly not the last juvenile killed during the commission of a felony (burglary). That fact seems to be lost on most folks here.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Not the first and certainly not the last juvenile killed during the commission of a felony (burglary). That fact seems to be lost on most folks here.
It's not lost on anybody because that's inaccurate. If there was a burglary it already happened so, it was not "during the commission" of it but after the fact.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 11:34 AM
 
Location: In the Wild Wild West
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These incidents have 2 basic solutions:
1 Obey the laws.
2 Obey the officers commands.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Pinetop-Lakeside, AZ
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What's a bummer, to bring this to Arizona, is that one would hope that Arizonan's didn't have so many 'social justice' warriors waiting to spring into action every time something like this happens; meaning rabble rousers who want to paint every single police officer as the bad guy every singe time.

But I guess we do have one here in Arizona. Meet Redeem Robinson. Here is some of what he had to say:

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"Tempe police, Phoenix police should not be able to eat and sleep in peace," he said. "If we really mean 'No Justice, No Peace,' then damn it — no justice, no peace. That means we must interrupt and disrupt until these families right here get justice for their sons."
Link: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...un/2609747002/

Funny. Redeem Robinson was a candidate for the Arizona senate a couple of years back. But he had a little problem a couple years back as well. He allegedly failed to give someone else some peace. Like his girlfriend.

Link: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...sed/890429001/

The same type of story that accompanies many of these 'protests' have come home here to AZ.

Like Ken, I find it embarrassing.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 03:00 PM
 
Location: downtown phoenix
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I support police but we lead the nation in officer involved shootings by a WIDE margin. Pointing a gun at an officer, real or fake, will get you shot. I get that and don't think the officer is wrong in that case. I do think that hiring combat vets to be cops might not be the best way to go. PTSD doesn't lend itself to calm decision making.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Originally Posted by Mouser View Post
It all boils down to two facts that gun control proponents
have not been able to address:

(1) There is a direct relationship between restrictive gun control laws and increased crime. Almost all gun control laws have been statistically proven to be linked to increases in crime.

(2) Criminals by definition do not obey the law. Using a firearm to harm another is already illegal.
Proponents might want to spend more time thinking about the facts, and less time writing about feelings that won't fix the problem.




Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
1. That IS debatable. 2. It doesn't explain why countries with strict gun control have considerable lower crime rates then the US. 3. You can't compare areas of the US, with other areas if the US, because once a gun is bought it can be taken almost anywhere in the US. 4. The only areas in the US that have gun restriction are Airports, public buildings, and the NRA headquarters. The restrictions are close to 100% effective at stopping gun crime in those areas.
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