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Originally Posted by freefall
Dennis Donovan, a veteran corporate-relocation consultant, said many legal and engineering firms already have outsourced routine work overseas, and he sees a bigger wave of offshoring by the burgeoning healthcare industry. At the same time, he sees fewer companies moving overseas strictly on the basis of cost.
When I read anything where Obama- or any Dem says "oh we want to do ____ but the Republicans have stopped us", I have to remember that the Democrats can pass anything they want. They have HUGE majorities in the House and the Senate and the have the White House. And don't say "filibuster" because the GOP can only pull that non sense as long as the Democrats allow them to pull it. The Constitution nor the law require 60 votes in the Senate to pass anything. They require 50 plus 1 vote (51 votes or a tie broken by the Vice President who is also a Dem). So don't let the Democrats get away with that non sense.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Glitch
Democrats and their Union stooges create a hostile, anti-American, anti-business environment and then act all surprised when American businesses flee in droves.
Then again, nobody has ever accused liberals of being in touch with reality. This is another fine example of how out of touch with reality they truly are.
Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your view. The FACT is that very very few of the millions of jobs leaving this country are UNION jobs. Most of the UNION jobs that could leave have already left long ago.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Nomander
The is interesting, but then I was under the impression that a president could not write legislation, only congress could and so their effect on the matter was simply encouragement in the process and approval as the bills came to end.
Maybe it would be more interesting to evaluate what party controlled congress over that time line as well as what was purposed and voted on during it?
Or, we could simple generalize for effect?
Don't worry, I won't let on to anyone. /wink
The President has a rubber stamp that says VETO on it. He can use it anytime he has the guts to do so. Bill Clinton used it several times even to the point of shutting the government down to let the Republicans know who the boss was. Bush NEVER once used it. So far Obama has not seemed to find the thing either.
The President has a rubber stamp that says VETO on it. He can use it anytime he has the guts to do so. Bill Clinton used it several times even to the point of shutting the government down to let the Republicans know who the boss was. Bush NEVER once used it. So far Obama has not seemed to find the thing either.
kev,
bush did use the veto, a couple of times
the dems even slammed him when he said the childrens health ins pan was TO EXPENSIVE and was spending way to much
No, you look for an opportunity to shoot your mouth off. And then when somone calls you on it and asks for some honest evidence, you back down and act snotty.
The record will reflect that you touted a Congressional Bill, yet could not offer one shred of evidence as to its effectiveness.
For the "record". If there were problems with the bill, why did the Repubs not allow it to the floor where those "problems" could be resolved?
For the "record". If there were problems with the bill, why did the Repubs not allow it to the floor where those "problems" could be resolved?
Stop changing the subject.
Tell us why the Bill would have been effective using real life examples via the Case Method. You introduced the Bill as evidence, now back it up. Surely you can do so with the simple criteria asked of you?
You can't. Because you do not know what the hell you are talking about. You have not even read the bill. You have no idea what it would entail. You do not even notice that there is no outrage because nobody, save you, saw any merit in it or believed a word of it.
It was a paltry, pathetic, and really desperate attempt at political grandstanding. It failed and the GOP is gonna roll over those fools next week. As if the US government could stop companies from moving their facilities overseas. How naive must one be to buy that hook, line, and sinker?
Nobody will be talking about this next week (nobody is now). But please, present a defense of it.
For the "record". If there were problems with the bill, why did the Repubs not allow it to the floor where those "problems" could be resolved?
if you have a spolied soup, do you still serve it, to try to take out the bad parts???
the entire bill did nothing, but cause MORE SEPARATION within this country
does the bill ADDRESS the ACTUAL jobs losses at all......NOPE
does the bill STOP more jobs from leaving.........NOPE
does the bill BRING any jobs BACK.......NOPE
does the bill cause MORE PROBLEMS to an underfunded SS.....YES
the entire bill was garbage
even the democrats should have filibustered it
you want jobs BACK in the usa:
1. emilinate all the freetrade agreements
2. severly increase the import tarrifs (to include on US corps that manufacture outside the USA (like GE, a CT company that manufaures everything in mexico/maylasia))
3. emilinate/severly cut the corporate tax
then jobs will come back...make it too expensive for them to IMPORT the product....make it that they will WANT to make it here
not some bogus bill that pelosi (the queen of " you cant apply the minimum wage to MY somoan workers, at the pelosi tuna factories") and other mind numb liberals came up with
if you have a spolied soup, do you still serve it, to try to take out the bad parts???
the entire bill did nothing, but cause MORE SEPARATION within this country
does the bill ADDRESS the ACTUAL jobs losses at all......NOPE
does the bill STOP more jobs from leaving.........NOPE
does the bill BRING any jobs BACK.......NOPE
does the bill cause MORE PROBLEMS to an underfunded SS.....YES
the entire bill was garbage
even the democrats should have filibustered it
you want jobs BACK in the usa:
1. emilinate all the freetrade agreements
2. severly increase the import tarrifs (to include on US corps that manufacture outside the USA (like GE, a CT company that manufaures everything in mexico/maylasia))
3. emilinate/severly cut the corporate tax
then jobs will come back...make it too expensive for them to IMPORT the product....make it that they will WANT to make it here
not some bogus bill that pelosi (the queen of " you cant apply the minimum wage to MY somoan workers, at the pelosi tuna factories") and other mind numb liberals came up with
Saves me the trouble going through reading all the post Sounds good to me.
Democrats and their Union stooges create a hostile, anti-American, anti-business environment and then act all surprised when American businesses flee in droves.
Then again, nobody has ever accused liberals of being in touch with reality. This is another fine example of how out of touch with reality they truly are.
Yes, you are obviously very well read on this subject, of course you have some points a little off center. Bill Clinton fast tracked NAFTA right along with George the first, now we see the Obama giving hundreds of billions to his masters on Wall street, shhheeesh, do you think maybe BOTH parties are in cahoots with the corporate whores who ate your lunch?
American corporations unlike their European counterparts recive tax breaks for outsourcing jobs and the GOP want to continue this policy to reward companys that uses tax breaks to outsources jobs.
Corporations pay a lower corporate tax rate in the other countries, then can deduct it from their taxes with the Foreign tax Credit. If they re-invest the profits in the other country they don't pay tax on them - which explains why nations like India and China are experiencing such phenominal growth and modernization.
Since employment is a zero sum game, those pofits are no longer circulating in this country, thus bankrupcies and foreclosure will continue to mount. While the Dem proposal isn't much, it's a start.
We need to force corporations to keep the jobs here, or at least offer incentives that will allow a fair fight. How about this - allow CEOs unlimited compensation if they keep jobs here, and limit their pay to 40 times the average workers pay if they outsource - that would put the brakes on fast!!!
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Sounds good to me.
