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View Poll Results: Should gay TSA agents be allowed to give same-gender pat-downs?
Yes, they should be allowed 49 45.79%
No, they should not 55 51.40%
Not sure 3 2.80%
Voters: 107. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-11-2010, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes, and you should want the government to do every last damn thing it can to keep items and people with intent to harm us off of our planes and out of our country - and preferably to kill them wherever they are. Those same guys who failed in this bombing attempt will learn from their failures and they will try again. And these people have resources and connections; maybe soon it might be a nuclear device they're working with instead of an explosive-laden toner cartridge. Why are you in favor of increasing the weaknesses and gaps in our defenses that they will try to exploit?
Hey..if you think Joe Rent-A-Cop groping your genitals will save this country then "May the Force be with you" is all I can say.
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Old 11-12-2010, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Homestead Florida
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I just wanted to say that I had the opportunity to see how the imaging machine works. If you chose to opt out, they will pat you down. The pat down is a lot worse. They use the back of their hands for your privates, but feel ALL the way up your legs. On the flip side, the control room is away from the TSA screener, and the operator never sees the passengers. The image isnt even that bad. I would personally take the image machine over the pat down. I hope this helps.
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I just wanted to say that I had the opportunity to see how the imaging machine works. If you chose to opt out, they will pat you down. The pat down is a lot worse. They use the back of their hands for your privates, but feel ALL the way up your legs. On the flip side, the control room is away from the TSA screener, and the operator never sees the passengers. The image isnt even that bad. I would personally take the image machine over the pat down. I hope this helps.
You are wrong. They now use the palms of their hands to grab, lift, and shift your genitals or breast to probe those areas at their leisure.
National Opt-Out Day

Watch the videos in the above link.
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Pilots, passengers, parents rail at new pat downs - Travel - News - msnbc.com

I think that we have become a nation of sheeple who never argue or protest when our rights are being trampled upon by an increasingly obtrusive Federal government. If they do this to me, I will protest loudly and defend my right to be free of harassment as a citizen of this pitiful country. Would any of you do the same or join in some sort of protest against this treatment?

You probably have two choices:

1. protest/resist/raise a ruckus and remain grounded

2. submit to the inspection and proceed with the flights you've paid for

This nation has been fed a steady diet of fear for the past decade. The public (and government) is unlikely to wean itself anytime soon.
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yes, and you should want the government to do every last damn thing it can to keep items and people with intent to harm us off of our planes and out of our country - and preferably to kill them wherever they are. Those same guys who failed in this bombing attempt will learn from their failures and they will try again. And these people have resources and connections; maybe soon it might be a nuclear device they're working with instead of an explosive-laden toner cartridge. Why are you in favor of increasing the weaknesses and gaps in our defenses that they will try to exploit?
Well then, how about some common sense when it comes to screening passengers? Granny and her grandkids should not be harassed, intimidated and groped by TSA workers.

But there is a profile on file of the people who are intent on bringing planes down and attacking this country.

Unfortunately, the Left has made sure we can't identify those people through their PC BS.
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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If you don't like living in a "pitiful country," you're free to leave.
I agree with you completely. Someone should come up with an official list of pitiful countries, so at least people who want to leave the United States don't wind up someplace even worse!
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:37 AM
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I just wanted to say that I had the opportunity to see how the imaging machine works. If you chose to opt out, they will pat you down. The pat down is a lot worse. They use the back of their hands for your privates, but feel ALL the way up your legs. On the flip side, the control room is away from the TSA screener, and the operator never sees the passengers. The image isnt even that bad. I would personally take the image machine over the pat down. I hope this helps.
LOL, you don't happen to work for the TSA do you? If only a small percentage of passengers chose to opt out, it would bring the air transportation system to a grinding halt. Only some type of organized resistance is going to get rid of the useless security theater that we have been subjected to.
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:44 AM
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Well then, how about some common sense when it comes to screening passengers? Granny and her grandkids should not be harassed, intimidated and groped by TSA workers.

But there is a profile on file of the people who are intent on bringing planes down and attacking this country.

Unfortunately, the Left has made sure we can't identify those people through their PC BS.
Are you really naive enough to think that terrorists won't change tactics and begin using the elderly and children to get past security?

Also, what profile are you talking about? Most of the recent incidents have not involved people that would fit some type of anti Arab, anti Muslim profile. Statements that we have to use some type of profiling in order to be secure are based more on bigotry than fact.
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:58 AM
 
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I love how some posters are using the outrage at our country's submission to terrorism to suppress our rights as a vehicle to argue for the suppression of others rights, and that they don't see how this also is a submission to terrorism.
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I find the following article rather distubing because it is advising Muslim women to refuse the full-body scans and to tell the "pat-down" thugs that they may only pat around the head and neck. First of all, it is because of Muslim extremists that we have all this "security" in the first place. But then to tell Muslim women that they are exempt from having the intrusive pat downs that the rest of us will be subjected to is just plain ridiculous. My suggestion is to install booths at airports that each of us would pass through and if you are hiding explosives, it will detonate them. That way, only the "baddies" will be affected and it will make another seat available on a crowded flight. It is cheaper (no team of TSA thugs required), much fairer, and certainly faster. How can it be wrong...?

Muslim Group Advises Women Wearing Hijabs to Allow TSA
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