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Old 12-01-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: PA
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I'm gonna stick with science, dude. Thanks, though.

Since your sticking with science which is correct the earth is flat, the sun earth revolves around the sun or eggs are bad for you.

Since science has changed its mind with new evidence will newer evidence change you way of thinking. If the evidence of what you believe to be truth ever really be truth at all and nothing more then thinking what you believe to be true at the time.

You choose science I choose either religion or science both are lost and many many desperate attempts at explaining what they think they see or do not know. 500 years from now people will laugh at your so called science of which will probably be considered incomplete and valables not considered in the big picture. Humans are monkeys with the brain power smart enough to prove one thing correct only to find out later because of tunnel vision and men and their egos get in the way of science theory and practice. Also what happens when scientist ignore the science :-)

 
Old 12-01-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll View Post
Since your sticking with science which is correct the earth is flat, the sun earth revolves around the sun or eggs are bad for you.

Since science has changed its mind with new evidence will newer evidence change you way of thinking. If the evidence of what you believe to be truth ever really be truth at all and nothing more then thinking what you believe to be true at the time.

You choose science I choose either religion or science both are lost and many many desperate attempts at explaining what they think they see or do not know. 500 years from now people will laugh at your so called science of which will probably be considered incomplete and valables not considered in the big picture. Humans are monkeys with the brain power smart enough to prove one thing correct only to find out later because of tunnel vision and men and their egos get in the way of science theory and practice. Also what happens when scientist ignore the science :-)
At least science has changed it's thinking in the last 2000 years and will change in the next 2000
 
Old 12-01-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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Since we can prove that it's impossible to get something from nothing, the logical belief is in an eternal uncreated universe. No other logical conclusion can be reached from that premise.
So the big bang is a lie?
 
Old 12-01-2010, 10:41 AM
 
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the sun earth revolves around the sun
You realize it was the backwardness of religion that insisted upon the geocentric model long after scientists were saying it was heliocentric? Hey, precious religion actually killed scientists who disagreed with their ludicrous dogma.

Isn't that special? Yeah, we should really retain those practices.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 10:43 AM
 
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You realize it was the backwardness of religion that insisted upon the geocentric model long after scientists were saying it was heliocentric? Hey, precious religion actually killed scientists who disagreed with their ludicrous dogma.

Isn't that special? Yeah, we should really retain those practices.
You're correct--it was men that killed men because their power structure was threatened. It wasn't the Bible that teaches that. It was men who cling to fairy tales. Just like you and others that cling to your modern-day ones. The only difference is the fairy tale you cling to.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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So the big bang is a lie?
Not at all.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 10:48 AM
 
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Not at all.
So the universe isn't eternal then.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Since your sticking with science which is correct the earth is flat, the sun earth revolves around the sun or eggs are bad for you.
None of those were scientific ideas. However the first two, both of which are Biblically based, remain beliefs held by the conservative and moderate wings of the "bible-science" community. Creationists would be the liberals in that same community.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/

http://www.geocentricity.com/
 
Old 12-01-2010, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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So the universe isn't eternal then.
Of course it is.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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None of those were scientific ideas. However the first two, both of which are Biblically based, remain beliefs held by the conservative and moderate wings of the "bible-science" community. Creationists would be the liberals in that same community.

Geocentricity
Can you show me where the Bible states taht the sun revolves around the earth? Or that the earth is flat? You provided a link to a poorly designed website...and you seem to be implying that anything said therein is something that all Christians believe, or that it's a Biblical presentation of the topic. I'm curious if you can actually present the evidence in your own words.
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