Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-08-2010, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
19,029 posts, read 14,216,690 times
Reputation: 16752

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
I enjoy your informative posts. But this statement is disingenuous.

Quote:
However to say "Rob people of their rights" is incorrect.
People surrendered their inalienable rights, via consent.
People do not consent. Force is used. Don't pay taxes go to jail. In no way should that be viewed as consent. Since when does someone who is robbed, willingly give their consent to the thief?
Quote:
Disingenuous - Not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.
Whether you know it or not, consent was given.

Please read the law.

For example, check your own state's constitution for the delegation of the power to tax. It will invariably be limited to estate (aka "real and personal property"). In law, real estate and private property are mutually exclusive. Only private property is constitutionally protected. Did anyone realize that recording private property as estate was voluntary?

Another example of consent is participation in FICA / Socialist InSecurity. There is no law compelling all Americans to enroll and participate. Nor is there any law punishing Americans who do not. It is 100% voluntary servitude. However, millions BELIEVE they are compelled by law to get their number before they can work in their own country.

Ignorance of law and apathy about government is how "they" rule us.

Remember, pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, America's governments were instituted to (a) secure rights and (b) govern those who CONSENT.

Form letter from Soc Sec Admin admitting "unpleasant truth"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/files/SSA_LET1.gif
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-08-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
37,949 posts, read 17,878,633 times
Reputation: 10371
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
Whether you know it or not, consent was given.

Please read the law.

For example, check your own state's constitution for the delegation of the power to tax. It will invariably be limited to estate (aka "real and personal property"). In law, real estate and private property are mutually exclusive. Only private property is constitutionally protected. Did anyone realize that recording private property as estate was voluntary?

Another example of consent is participation in FICA / Socialist InSecurity. There is no law compelling all Americans to enroll and participate. Nor is there any law punishing Americans who do not. It is 100% voluntary servitude. However, millions BELIEVE they are compelled by law to get their number before they can work in their own country.

Ignorance of law and apathy about government is how "they" rule us.

Remember, pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, America's governments were instituted to (a) secure rights and (b) govern those who CONSENT.

Form letter from Soc Sec Admin admitting "unpleasant truth"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/files/SSA_LET1.gif
I don't want to join in order to view. I have not come across anything that says you can opt out. Show me where people can opt out of SS
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-08-2010, 06:02 PM
 
17,401 posts, read 11,982,916 times
Reputation: 16155
Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
Face it The tea party is racist.
Face it Obama is a great President
Face it despite all the right wing effort minorities in this country continue to do better. If it was not for self inflicted wounds the right would go crazy and just start another civil war to keep us down.
All right, I'll bite. Show me your proof. Of ANY of it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-09-2010, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
19,029 posts, read 14,216,690 times
Reputation: 16752
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
I don't want to join in order to view. I have not come across anything that says you can opt out. Show me where people can opt out of SS
When you ask the public servants how to join, they're very helpful. But when you ask them for the procedure to leave, they stand mute.
Isn't that curious?

To answer your question, requires you to do some leg work.
Write a polite letter (via snail mail) to your local congresscritter and ask for a copy of:
(1) the law that compels all Americans to enroll in SocSec,
(2) the law that punishes any American who does not enroll in SocSec,
(3) the law that defines a unit dollar as anything but a silver coin.

You may get an answer. In my own experience, and reports from others, they will NOT reply. Which is quite unusual, don't you think?

If you ask about any other subject, important or daffy, they respond. But when you try to pin them down, on socialist insecurity or dollars, they go silent.

Of course, what they cannot divulge is that there is NO LAW compelling participation, nor punishing those who do not participate. It is 100% voluntary - voluntary servitude.

And since 1933, no DOLLARS have circulated. A "dollar bill" is NOT a dollar, by law. (See: Title 12 USC Sec. 411)

In short, we've been victims of the world's greatest propaganda ministry, hiding the facts in plain sight. The "Biggest" fact they don't want you to mull over is the following:
Emergency Powers Statutes, Senate Report SR 93-549, November 19, 1973
Senate Report 93-549
War and Emergency Powers Acts

"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years (1933-1973), freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency."
What was the cause of that "emergency"?
What will end that "emergency" so that we can return to FREEDOMS guaranteed by the USCON, that were ABRIDGED by the emergency?

The solution is not found in the ballot box.
No partisan politician will divulge the truth.
And that's why "they" won't tell you how to withdraw consent.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-09-2010, 03:15 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
30,419 posts, read 20,318,915 times
Reputation: 8958
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oerdin View Post
Palin is hated by the GOP establishment and there isn't a snowball's chance in hell she could win the election to be the party chairman. The Tea Party was never anything more then a collection of useful idiots to the real powers that run the GOP (the wealthy "campaign donors" who bribe the politicians) and that's why billionaires like the Koch brothers paid to bus those useful idiots around to different rallies so they could scream "socialism" and claim Obama was going to kill grandma. Now the election is over and the real owners of the GOP don't need those dolts any more so the tea party idiots will get flushed down the toilet like an old turd and the wealthy will continue doing what they've always done with "their party".
One must wonder where you people come up with this stuff! This is really funny. Do you also believe in a fairy god mother?

Apparently, you are still sleeping. You don't know what is going on around you, do you?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-09-2010, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
37,803 posts, read 41,036,241 times
Reputation: 62204
Quote:
Originally Posted by calipoppy View Post
The Tea Party is now impotent and completely disposable by the Republican party. Their usefulness has been drained.

The Tea Party "movement" was a puppet parade that was financially backed by billionaires like the Koch brothers in an effort to create a resurgence in the Republican party and they are no longer relevant.

The billionaire Koch brothers’ war against Obama : The New Yorker

The only way that they can remain 'relevant' is by attempting to elevate their patron saint, Sarah Palin, run for RNC Chairman (to of course replace the "Token"). However, the true Republican establishment will never let that happen and will quash the TP movement entirely.

Tea party group wants Palin for RNC - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com
The Tea Party doesn't have to wait to some Spring 2011 date, like politicians seeking higher office, to start getting ready for 2012. There is a difference between the media not catching on and actually doing something.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-09-2010, 06:26 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
30,419 posts, read 20,318,915 times
Reputation: 8958
Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
The tea party is racist and therefore nothing the President does will ever be good in their eyes.
Totally idiotic and without merit. Nothing you have seen or heard could possibly justify such an asinine claim. There is not one shred of evidence of racism having been shown anywhere within the Tea Party Movement.

If you think this is about race, you haven't looked at this president, his background, his beliefs, what he has written, who he associates with or things he has said. This is about a president that is doing everything possible to destroy the United States of America and the freedom and liberty we enjoy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
They claim to be a grass roots and all about saving the country,when in fact its all about racial hate of a non white President. I thought when Obama was elected we as a nation had finally turned a corner.
Proof that his election was about race. Noting more. Thanks for that admission.

Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
That I and my children would stand the same chance based on merit as anyone else.
You always have had the same chance, if you would quit looking for racism behind every tree and quit thinking of yourself as a victim! You aren't a victim of anything but your own self pity!

How is it possible that so many other blacks have not let themselves become victims and have done great things? Look at Condoleezza Rice? What an amazing woman! Smart. Articulate, and with so many accomplishments! There are many others. Ken Blackwell, Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Walter E. Williams, just to name a few that come to mind. And Glenn Beck, whom you mention below, has had many of them on his show. These people never once wallowed in self pity.

Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
Then one month later the tea party showed up with all the racist signs and comments.
Have any photos of those racist signs and comments? Where's the proof?

Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
One month into his term,"He cant lead"......."We want our country back"......."Kenya". I watched in disbelief as this group of racist took every problem we ever had and manged to lay the fault at his feet.
Of course Obama blames Bush and the Republicans for everything ... like you are doing.

But get a clue. This is about an agenda that is to destroy our country. It is about his "fundamentally transform[ing]" the United States of America into a European style socialist state. Well that isn't what people voted for! We don't want to be a socialist state. We like our republican form of government. We like our freedom. That is what the Tea Party Movement has always been about, and still is, to save the republic. If Obama was white, we would be doing the same thing. It's just too bad the first black president had to be a Marxist!!! The stupid people that voted for this ass refused to look into his background, and the press wouldn't either.

Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
The people were all to willing to accept it too. The media was orgasmic for these low life liars. Lead by super racist glen beck who disrespected MLK by having a racist rally on the day of his I have a dream speech.
Glenn Beck has lead nothing in the Tea Party Movement, and he is no liar. Neither did he disrespect MLK in anyway. On the contrary, he admires MLK and has spoken of him many times on his show. But Pelosi and her Democrat collegues disrespected him in their immitation of MLK and the others, walking arm in arm through the crowd! How disgusting they are!

Again, can you provide any proof of any racism in anything Glenn Beck has ever said or done? There were a lot of prominent black leaders that joined him in that rally, including MLK's niece. I doubt they would have if they thought he was a racist. Oh, but wait... to you, they are just "Uncle Toms", right?

Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
All these things are nothing compared to the coming legislation that the tea party caucus will try.
You mean like repealing Obamacare, the worst piece of legislation in our countries history, not read by anyone who voted for it. They had no idea what was in it. It will destroy us, and 74% of doctors are saying they will leave the profession! This is where we are, thanks to this incompetent boob of a president, and these socialists called "Progressives" that have hijacked the Democrat Party. Wake up!
Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
Racism is a mentality.
You have certainly proved that to be true. You cannot let go of it, can you?
Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
If our representatives have a racist mentality that makes it legitimate for the average idiot in SC that gets to be a supervisor over minorities to practice that mentality.
I hope they get what they want. Many blacks are a sleep to the danger we are now in because Obama was elected,but I'm counting on the tea party to wake them up and I know they want disappoint.
I think you would be surprised to know how many blacks disagree with you. You need to let go of your racist point of view and realize what the real danger to our country is. You are having trouble seeing reality through your hatred.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-09-2010, 06:39 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
30,419 posts, read 20,318,915 times
Reputation: 8958
Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
Face it The tea party is racist.
Face it Obama is a great President
Face it despite all the right wing effort minorities in this country continue to do better. If it was not for self inflicted wounds the right would go crazy and just start another civil war to keep us down.
The "Tea Party" (there is no "Tea Party") is not racist. Prove it or quit lying.

Obama is a disaster of a president. Great? Define great. What has he done so far that is "great". Nothing. He has taken a bad economy and made it into a disaster. Worse, he has done it on purpose, which is precisely why Rush Limbaugh said he hoped he would fail [to implement his agenda].

Those of us on the "right" want blacks to do better! Why do you keep voting for Democrats who have for decades worked to keep you down? Wise up! Quit whining!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-09-2010, 06:51 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
30,419 posts, read 20,318,915 times
Reputation: 8958
Quote:
Originally Posted by enemy country View Post
That is no surprise. Steele is a token. Tea party was motivated by racism.
OMG!!! This is so insane! How about some proof? I don't think you have a clue what the "tea party movement" is about. You are using it as an excuse to justify your hatred and anger. Trouble is, it doesn't work because there is no racism in the movement!

The sooner you let go of this hatred and anger you feel, the better off you are going to be. You are keeping yourself from improving your life. You are not helping yourself by it, nor are you helping your family. What you are most likely doing is spreading the hatred and anger to those around you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-09-2010, 07:09 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
30,419 posts, read 20,318,915 times
Reputation: 8958
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLCPUNK View Post
What can they say at this point? The GOP is about to add BILLIONS to the deficit already. I'd imagine the 'baggers would feel stupid at this point, but considering how oblivious they are in general I doubt they even know what is going on.
And you think you know what is going on? The GOP is going to add billions to the deficite???? Really? What do you think about the billions that Obama has racked up in only two years?

We are oblivious??? Really? I don't think you have a clue. Do you see our things improving or getting worse? We are much worse off now than when this clown took office, and it isn't getting better. Moreover, it isn't going to get better untill we get him out and can undo the damage he has done. It could take decades.

I feel very sorry for those of you who cannot see what is going on.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:37 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top