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Old 01-14-2011, 02:28 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Let the people build them themselves. I live in a state where construction has taken a HUGE hit. These people know how to build. Throw some federal money at it.
I also live in a state that has been hit hard by the housing collapse.Okay so you have some labor to build the camps,and the material will come from the fedgov.
What is the purpose of the camps?


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I am sure there is enough around to do this somewhere if something else goes (like big Congress salaries). See post 71 as to what they do.
Well almost a trillion dollars was planned to be spent on a health care bill to fatten the coffers of insurance companies...
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:29 PM
 
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If you do not like capitalism and business, then do not depend on them to build you homeless camps....geeze.

How do you exist without capitalism ?
You may be a socialist but you don't propose any viable solutions.

Have the people build the camps ?
With what materials ?
How do you feed, clothe and shelter them while all this is going on ?

It's nice to say.."everyone should have a home" but it cannot end there.
It reads well emotionally..but how does it play out realistically ?
How does habitat for humanity get their projects done? I don't know. I imagine that would be my first line of investigation.

I do recall working for a VERY RICH guy in San Diego. We used to get the calls from Habitat for Humanity and, yunno, that guy never helped out.

Like I say, make Congress take a pay cut and use that money to get it done. They and Bushco got us into this mess, they should get us out. Or let 'em hit up their rich Wall Street friends for donations.

I imagine there are plenty of ways to get it done. One should not shoot down ideas before they even get fleshed out.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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I also live in a state that has been hit hard by the housing collapse.Okay so you have some labor to build the camps,and the material will come from the fedgov.
What is the purpose of the camps?
Why don't we call them housing developments. Language matters. The purpose is transitional housing until people find a way to get on their feet.

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Well almost a trillion dollars was planned to be spent on a health care bill to fatten the coffers of insurance companies...
Yeah, Obama blew it there too. He should have insisted on single payor.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Here
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I imagine there are plenty of ways to get it done. One should not shoot down ideas before they even get fleshed out.
I know, lets just print more money and buy everyone a house, car and provide them 5 years salary. Perhaps then everything will be swell.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:33 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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How does habitat for humanity get their projects done? I don't know. I imagine that would be my first line of investigation.
Companies donate material,also from sales for Habitat REstore.


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Like I say, make Congress take a pay cut and use that money to get it done. They and Bushco got us into this mess, they should get us out.
Well okay,how much money if we make them work for free(which I am fine with)???
How much will that bring in?



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I imagine there are plenty of ways to get it done. One should not shoot down ideas before they even get fleshed out.
Asking questions isn't shooting down an idea,it is trying to see HOW it can be done.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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See? This is why I am not a capitilist. I am a socialist at heart. I don't have all the answers, most of the answers, but I bet I have a lot of better answers than most people running things.
No your not, your a communist. Don't get angery. You want something to lesser suffering, which is fine, but the Gov isn't going to do that, not even a communist Govt does that.

You think the gov has funds to help people, and it does, but not with out taking it from other people.

This idea was tried in the 60's in the USA with the hippies and i don'[t believe there is a surving commune left.

Ah those were the days ....... The idea was you could show up and do what you do and get fed. In not a lot of time there were more people to eat than there were to grow or build anything.

Everything was supposed to be Love Power, Flower Power, and Free Love.

Where is it now? I am still here. I still have a pony tail. I was there then. These same people for the most part toss out their bell bottoms, cut off their pony tails, and went to work gathering the god almighty dollars...

These are the same ones raising thugs and cheap tramp whores for sons and daughters.

Geeze Bill Clinton is on CNN tawkin policy! Some cheap moves are moving I see. Hillary was on before today....
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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For the fedgov. to give a dollar,it had to TAKE that dollar(actually more than a dollar but that is unimportant) from someone else.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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No your not, your a communist. Don't get angery. You want something to lesser suffering, which is fine, but the Gov isn't going to do that, not even a communist Govt does that.

You think the gov has funds to help people, and it does, but not with out taking it from other people.

This idea was tried in the 60's in the USA with the hippies and i don'[t believe there is a surving commune left.

Ah those were the days ....... The idea was you could show up and do what you do and get fed. In not a lot of time there were more people to eat than there were to grow or build anything.

Everything was supposed to be Love Power, Flower Power, and Free Love.

Where is it now? I am still here. I still have a pony tail. I was there then. These same people for the most part toss out their bell bottoms, cut off their pony tails, and went to work gathering the god almighty dollars...

These are the same ones raising thugs and cheap tramp whores for sons and daughters.

Geeze Bill Clinton is on CNN tawkin policy! Some cheap moves are moving I see. Hillary was on before today....
Don't worry. I am not "angery." Nor am I a communist. The nations I admire happen to be nations like Sweden and Norway who have figured out how to get this done.

I guess I can't disagree with the rest of what you say, HOWEVER, there were jobs back then.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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Habitat is a private thing. Their own org......
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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The nations I admire happen to be nations like Sweden and Norway who have figured out how to get this done.
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Okay,how do those nations 'get this done'?
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