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Old 03-22-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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You commute by train and would rather drive? Why do you keep beating yourself up? Highways too jammed up? I have never ridden the Acela but have taken many intercity train trips. I enjoy the ability to get up you don't get when driving and better room than on a plane. The train is not attractive for NY to Houston, but if you could get from Chicago to St Louis in three hours by train, it would be very attractive.
I've taken several coast to coast rides. PA to FL for example.. It was a horrible experience.. Just BORING.. Sitting there, waiting, and waiting.. We spent 28 hours on a train.. The only benefit was that we could sleep while it traveled rather than staying at a hotel, but a plane would have been better..

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Old 03-22-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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The hassles involved in air travel have also helped increase interest in rail alternatives:
What is to say those same hassles will not be evident in these rail alernatives? They already do spot checks on teh NY and DC subways.

If there is a guy who will blow up a plane on the runway, then there are thousands more of his comrades who will eagerly blow up an entire train.
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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What is to say those same hassles will not be evident in these rail alernatives? They already do spot checks on teh NY and DC subways.

If there is a guy who will blow up a plane on the runway, then there are thousands more of his comrades who will eagerly blow up an entire train.
I've never had a problem on north east corridor (Amtrak, usually Acela Express). Its been get in, travel, get out.
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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High Speed Rail is, IMHO, a far better use of government money than a billion dollar fighter plane with nothing to fight.
Don't forget the B-2 Bomber (1.27 billion a pop).
Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We have 20 - count 'em - 20 billion dollar bombers...

Program cost (as of 2004) : 44.75 billion
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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I've never had a problem on north east corridor (Amtrak, usually Acela Express). Its been get in, travel, get out.
I neither asked nor commented on Amtrak.


This is a discussion thread regarding proposed high speed rail.
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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I neither asked nor commented on Amtrak.


This is a discussion thread regarding proposed high speed rail.
Why would it need to be different?
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:56 AM
 
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Don't forget the B-2 Bomber (1.27 billion a pop).
Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We have 20 - count 'em - 20 billion dollar bombers...

Program cost (as of 2004) : 44.75 billion
Perhaps you found a way to get HSR funded: put it under the Defense budget, making sure that it serves military bases. Of course troop movements would have priority and it could be commandeered in the event of a national emergency.
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Old 03-22-2011, 12:05 PM
 
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Why would it need to be different?
EinsteinsGhost!!!!

Nobody has a problem with building high speed rail in the crowded Northeast Corridor. Mostly because the Northeast Corridor is different than almost everywhere else.

Now come on!
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Old 03-22-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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EinsteinsGhost!!!!

Nobody has a problem with building high speed rail in the crowded Northeast Corridor. Mostly because the Northeast Corridor is different than almost everywhere else.

Now come on!
Was that the point we were debating?

And no, north east corridor is not the only one "different". San Francisco-LA-San Diego, Dallas-Austin/Houston make as much sense. High Speed Rail is about connecting major cities, just like airlines. No? Heck, Taiwan as a nation has a population barely more than Dallas, Austin and Houston combined and has a high speed rail system in place. But somehow, America is the only country that can't afford or do it?
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Old 03-22-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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That's why we need HSR. Too bad the airline industry won't allow it to happen.



Survey says: 79% of travelers would pick high speed rail over air travel when possible | Gadling.com
If it make sense, then private sector will be building it.

If government get involve, then you can bet some special interest is interest in it. This probably going to cost you and me a lot of billions.
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