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At this time our highway infrastructure is in need of rebuilding and enhancement. Federal fuel tax is collected at a rate of 18.4 cents per gallon on gas, and 24.4 cents per gallon on diesel fuel. Nearly 20% of that already goes to subsidize mass transit. Seems mass transit users are unwilling to pay their own way, and politicians will do anything to buy votes. If the money collected from highway users was spend on, say...highways, maybe we wouldn't have to use "stimulus" funds to keep them up.
If the line is combined with Regional / Commuter Rail , it has a higher ridership already in place....
Amtrak Northeastern Division
Projects to be completed by 2020
New Haven - Springfield Corridor
Lackawanna line
Lehigh line
Norfolk line
Concord line
DMU trains > Downeaster , Vermonter
Electrification of the Empire line , Lehigh line & Lackawanna line
Re-routed Vermont trains
Cape Cod service
New Shops
Overhaul of the Northeast Corridor
Newer Amfleet Cars
City Sprinter locos
Overhaul of Bridgeport , Stamford , Baltimore , Philly , Newark Stations
Added Capacity to South Station , DC Union , NY Penn station , Springfield station , Hartford , Providence , Harrisburg
Overhaul and Replacement of NEC wires , Bridges , Tunnels
LED Signal Bulbs
Concrete Ties on all lines
LED Departure Boards
Large Scale Rail Projects
Project : Lackawanna line (Regional Rail / Intercity Rail) Number of lines : 1
Stations : 5/6 (Intercity)
Projected Ridership : 12,000
Status : Under Construction in NJ
Project : Lehigh line (Regional Rail / Intercity Rail) Number of lines : 1
Stations : 7 (Intercity)
Projected Ridership : 15,000
Status : Awaiting Funding
Project : Concord line (Regional Rail / Intercity Rail) Number of lines : 1
Stations : 3
Projected Ridership : 2,000
Status : Awaiting Funding
Project : Cape Cod line (Regional Rail / Intercity Rail) Number of lines : 1
Stations : 7
Projected Ridership : 14,000 (seasonal)
Status : Awaiting Funding
Project : Norfolk line Number of lines : 1
Stations : 8
Projected Ridership : 5,000
Status : Under Construction
Project : New Haven - Springfield line (Regional Rail / Intercity Rail) Number of lines : 1
Stations : 3 (Intercity)
Projected Ridership : 9,000
Status : Under Construction
If there is that much of a demand for it then our capitalism society will see a profit in it and someone will build it. We don't need government intervention for a good idea.
Nexis, do we have to keep repeating to you, that the Northeast U.S. is NOT the entire U.S.? Amtrak is a collosal failure outside of the Northeast, and you're not gonna get a lot of people to ride HSR outside of the region, except possibly in California. You have a stack of things working against HSR outside of the Northeast, the biggest one being lack of easy-to-navigate and extensive public transit in target cities.
Just like what works in France might not work in Spain and might not work in Russia, what works for the Northeast does not mean it'll work elsewhere. I can't stress this enough. The Northeast is a collection of 9 small states clustered close together, whereas elsewhere in the U.S. there are 41 states that have everything spread out. The only densely populated corridors in the U.S. are the Northeast, south Florida, California, and a bit of a stretch, the Chicago-Detroit corridor.
Nexis, do we have to keep repeating to you, that the Northeast U.S. is NOT the entire U.S.? Amtrak is a collosal failure outside of the Northeast, and you're not gonna get a lot of people to ride HSR outside of the region, except possibly in California. You have a stack of things working against HSR outside of the Northeast, the biggest one being lack of easy-to-navigate and extensive public transit in target cities.
Just like what works in France might not work in Spain and might not work in Russia, what works for the Northeast does not mean it'll work elsewhere. I can't stress this enough. The Northeast is a collection of 9 small states clustered close together, whereas elsewhere in the U.S. there are 41 states that have everything spread out. The only densely populated corridors in the U.S. are the Northeast, south Florida, California, and a bit of a stretch, the Chicago-Detroit corridor.
Are you a railfanner?
He asked whether HSR could run on profit....it can and it does in Spain. Were they have Park & ride HSL's .... Yes i am , it can work outside the NE....FYI i'm not really a fan of HSR , more of an Intercity Fan
He asked whether HSR could run on profit....it can and it does in Spain. Were they have Park & ride HSL's .... Yes i am , it can work outside the NE....FYI i'm not really a fan of HSR , more of an Intercity Fan
Same here. I think HSR is a blackhole for money. We have to first do what jetgraphics suggest all the time, and to bring back the electric streetcar and trolley, and then expand out from there.
Same here. I think HSR is a blackhole for money. We have to first do what jetgraphics suggest all the time, and to bring back the electric streetcar and trolley, and then expand out from there.
I don't think its a waste , but we could just spend a few billion $$ and upgrade a few dozen lines to Intercity rail speeds....or expand the Regional Railway network. 15 Billion $$ is enough to restore and electrify about 500+ miles in NJ which all of the mileage NJT is trying to restore which would service 400-600,000 daily. HSR would only service 20-30,000 daily unless you count the ridership on the line it runs on....
Amtrak is a collosal failure outside of the Northeast, and you're not gonna get a lot of people to ride HSR outside of the region, except possibly in California.
Northeast is the only region that has Amtrak infrastructure, no doubt it works there. Similar infrastructure elsewhere will work there as well.
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Just like what works in France might not work in Spain and might not work in Russia, what works for the Northeast does not mean it'll work elsewhere. I can't stress this enough.
HSR works everywhere in western Europe, and fabulously in Japan as well.
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The Northeast is a collection of 9 small states clustered close together, whereas elsewhere in the U.S. there are 41 states that have everything spread out. The only densely populated corridors in the U.S. are the Northeast, south Florida, California, and a bit of a stretch, the Chicago-Detroit corridor.
Why does it matter? Dallas to Houston is about 260 miles, two large cities covering about 13 million people. Why would you be opposed to a 2-hour ride in a high speed train, at a lower cost and in greater comfort compared to an airplane? Meals served with proper silverware too. Like airlines, high speed network doesn't care much about population density, but population centers.
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Nexis, do we have to keep repeating to you, that the Northeast U.S. is NOT the entire U.S.? Amtrak is a collosal failure outside of the Northeast, and you're not gonna get a lot of people to ride HSR outside of the region, except possibly in California. You have a stack of things working against HSR outside of the Northeast, the biggest one being lack of easy-to-navigate and extensive public transit in target cities.
Just like what works in France might not work in Spain and might not work in Russia, what works for the Northeast does not mean it'll work elsewhere. I can't stress this enough. The Northeast is a collection of 9 small states clustered close together, whereas elsewhere in the U.S. there are 41 states that have everything spread out. The only densely populated corridors in the U.S. are the Northeast, south Florida, California, and a bit of a stretch, the Chicago-Detroit corridor.
Are you a railfanner?
Didn't I see someone from the area you are talking about mention that we would see that area seceding from the union soon? Might this be the reason for that attempted secession? Do these people not understand that Lincoln fought that Civil War to maintain the Union?
[quote=EinsteinsGhost;18390417]Dallas metro area and Houston metro area themselves are about 13-14 million people. Add Austin to the mix and you're close. And why do you assume Taiwan's high speed rail would be covering 100% of the population?
I neither assumed nor said any such thing. In addition to inane comparisons, now you are now injecting dishonesty.
You....have....LOST.
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