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Old 03-31-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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Then why are you against abortion? You do not have to pay to raise a child for 18 years if it is aborted. It's win/win. The mother does not have a child she didn't want and you do not have to pay for that unwanted child.
Why do you say I'm against abortion? I've never said that. I SAID I don't want to pay for that abortion. Is that so hard to comprehend.

If a person doesn't have to pay, the service becomes valueless.
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Why do you say I'm against abortion? I've never said that. I SAID I don't want to pay for that abortion. Is that so hard to comprehend.

If a person doesn't have to pay, the service becomes valueless.
You are not paying for abortions now, so what is the problem?

You live in a country that is not going to allow children to starve......that will never change. The only answer is to try to control population growth, by all means available to us.
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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Why do you say I'm against abortion? I've never said that. I SAID I don't want to pay for that abortion. Is that so hard to comprehend.

If a person doesn't have to pay, the service becomes valueless.
According to the law, you are not paying for an abortion unless the woman has been raped, it is a case of incest or the mother's life is in danger, surely you would not force a women to continue a pregnancy under these conditions? I am not to sure where everyone has come up with the idea that all abortions are paid for with tax dollars. Probably the same place they came up with the idea that late term abortions are common occurances.
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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According to the law, you are not paying for an abortion unless the woman has been raped, it is a case of incest or the mother's life is in danger, surely you would not force a women to continue a pregnancy under these conditions? I am not to sure where everyone has come up with the idea that all abortions are paid for with tax dollars. Probably the same place they came up with the idea that late term abortions are common occurances.
They learn it from biased, incorrect, deliberately misleading, pro-life rhetoric.
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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Sour D....maybe the men should have their prostate and testicles removed.....you know, it does take 2 to tango....there IS birth control for men you know, men who make babies with a woman (whether she can afford to raise them or not) should HAVE to help raise that child....why is it all put on the woman??, and why is it soooo easy for a man to just walk away.Society needs to find out why so many young men are so irresponsible that they can just walk away from THEIR child, and expect the tax dollers to raise them.
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:45 PM
 
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Well, how did married couples in the 1950s get off fine with 4 kids and one income without welfare, food stamps, abortion, etc.?

But, if a woman makes the mistake of "accidently" getting pregnant, then let her and her husband/boyfriend worry about the problem. The taxpayers shouldn't be paying for something to care for them.

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Old 03-31-2011, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Well, how did married couples in the 1950s get off fine with 4 kids and one income without welfare, food stamps, abortion, etc.?
They had close family relationships.

It used to be normal for a family of three generations to live under the same roof for a long time. You know, how some Mexicans do it today and people make fun of them for it.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:32 PM
 
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Is a fetus that is 8 1/2 months in a baby or a fetus?
Although I would not approve abortion at 8 & 1/2 months due to the brain being fully formed it is still a fetus until it's born and takes the first breath....then it's a baby. We call it a baby but that doesn't mean it's a baby yet just close enough to be called what we expect to get after the birth.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:40 PM
 
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But want to get rid of government handout programs to take care of these unwanted babys?


YouTube - Abortion Is The Reason Social Security Is Failing! Rick Santorum

This GOP philosophy never made since to me. Outlaw abortion, but then outlaw aid programs to take care of the kids to mothers who otherwise can't afford them (or are too lazy to work).

What is the reason for this? Contraception sometimes fails and a lot of women are irresponsible anyway. For those instances, do we make the women have the kid, and then let the kid starve? It's not like you can force the women to get a job, and even if she does, minimum wage (for low skill women) is not enough for housing and child care.
Perhaps these women wouldn't decide to be "too lazy to work" if the free handout wasn't always there to take away any motivation to work generation after generation.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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They had close family relationships.

It used to be normal for a family of three generations to live under the same roof for a long time. You know, how some Mexicans do it today and people make fun of them for it.
Not everyone makes fun of intergenerational families cohabitating. Not the people with Family Values. Not the parents who are fighting for the right to raise their own children and instill in them their own values and not have the government take over their personal lives. Not the people who are for personal responsibility instead of government welfare. Not the people who want to reduce the size of our giant Federal Government and return to more state, local & community control, where neighbors help neighbors and family members can help other family members because the Federal Government isn't taking all their money to give it away to some nameless, faceless, unknown people thousands of miles away who are caught up in a never ending cycle of governmental dependency bred poverty.

No. Not EVERYONE makes fun of family members being able to help out other family members. Some of us think that is what this country started out as and should return to.
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