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Ok. Whatever. I am not here to necessarily debate whether or not homosexuality is nature or nurture. I want to hear from LDS or ex-LDS in regards to the seemingly large population of gay males in Utah and what "their" explanation is behind this.
LMAO. I love how all of the mormon posters on the Utah forum that are so quick to jump all over any thread that even remotely shines a bright light on their falseness/negative aspects of Utah and/or mormon culture, but yet...now...they are nowhere to be found on this thread. LMAO. Guess it hits too close to home, eh?
Oh and love how they respond to the post Utahns are Not Friendly thread..."Oh my god, we are so like totally friendly like check out how we totally respond and bash and call names when someone like oh my god has a different experience than like myself cuz i'm sure that whatever my life experience is living in my utah mormon bubble it must be the same for everyone, no???" LMAOOO!!!
what makes homosexuality different from someone diagnosed as bipolar or with schizophrenia? is there a difference? and who in the world wrote it in stone this idea that homosexuality is a sexual orientation and cannot be change. there are all kinds of things we are supposedly born with that manifest in our behaviors, ie addictions, rapists, pedophilia, etc....so if pedophelia is what someone is born with, therefore it can't be changed, therefore it should be embraced and celebrated??
Apparently you failed to read the TEN links I posted earlier and after reading this post I question your true intent with this thread!
Mormon families are often popular subjects in genetic studies. They keep great records of their family trees. They have little migration. They tend to marry within the same faith and race so their genetic diversity is somewhat limited. They were the victims of many rare genetic disease as a result of this but due to their excellent record keeping, you could trace where it came from.
If you believe homosexuality is something people are born with and that there is some genetic component, it's not difficult to see why the Mormon population would have higher numbers than normal due to the above noted facts. They marry within a small population demographic. There is little migration among their community if they remained within Utah. And since homosexuality is not culturally accepted, many Mormon homosexuals pretended to be heterosexuals and got married and had children thus passing on the gene or some form of biological inheritance.
Mormon families are often popular subjects in genetic studies. They keep great records of their family trees. They have little migration. They tend to marry within the same faith and race so their genetic diversity is somewhat limited. They were the victims of many rare genetic disease as a result of this but due to their excellent record keeping, you could trace where it came from.
If you believe homosexuality is something people are born with and that there is some genetic component, it's not difficult to see why the Mormon population would have higher numbers than normal due to the above noted facts. They marry within a small population demographic. There is little migration among their community if they remained within Utah. And since homosexuality is not culturally accepted, many Mormon homosexuals pretended to be heterosexuals and got married and had children thus passing on the gene or some form of biological inheritance.
Nice, thoughtful post. An ex-mormon, out of the closet gay man/performance artist, had that theory and more...
Look. I did read your posts, but maybe I disagree or agree to disagree. I realize that this is a hot emotional topic for some but I am asking questions that have been asked before and will be asked again. Perhaps I should not have brought up rape or pedophelia because that just stirs unnecessary emotions when I am actually just trying to heat up a well-thought out debate.
Consider this...
once upon a time homosexuality was diagnosed as a psychological disorder or (as many with "disorders" are referred to as having) a "mental illness".
Now does anyone want to be LABELED mentally "ill" or psychologically "diseased" or "disordered"? The answer is most probably no. I spent some time working with adults diagnosed with a "mental illness". The diagnoses ranged from bipolar to borderline to depressed to schizophrenic...etc.
After working with that group of people, I am very much against LABELING. Labeling someone as something and making that be who they are to everyone and anyone else they meet from that point on...
Are there any hard statistics showing that there actually is a higher rate of homosexuals among the mormon community or in Utah? Or just that Salt Lake City has attracted large numbers of gays from around the region?
I have two friends from Utah (well, one was born and raised in Idaho, but later moved to Utah as an adult) .... both were raised in the Mormon faith (one strictly so).... they lived in Salt Lake City, but SLC appears to be the place "to go" for gays in the mountain west to live a somewhat comfortable life. Is SLC just a congregation place, sourcing its gays from the small towns and other neighboring states throughout the region?
Oh, and the one has three kids he had with a woman at a very young age when he was trying to 'conform.'
Are there any hard statistics showing that there actually is a higher rate of homosexuals among the mormon community or in Utah?
Absolutely not. This is total nonsense, but m92tiger appears to be convinced otherwise.
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