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Old 05-10-2011, 04:09 PM
 
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Men who seem to challenge feminism or speak out against strong, intelligent, capable and empowered women are really speaking out about their own insecurities as much as any social changes.
Good afternoon,

Nice to see you around again.

Are you saying men who challenge any aspects of feminism are insecure? That seems to imply that every aspect of feminism, and every agenda pushed by every branch of it is good.

For example, my previous post in regards to 50/50 child custody being fought against by the feminist group NOW. Is that effort not against equal rights and shouldn't that effort be challenged?
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:10 PM
 
Location: London
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I'm not asking what her kid needs, I'm asking what SHE needs.

Does she need or want a man to financially provide for her and her kid(s)? That's as far as a man has to go to be a dad, by the way, financial support.
The underlined: didn't you just say you weren't asking what her kid needs? Besides, if you knew anything about motherhood, you'd know that the kids' needs come before hers.
As far as the bolded, it's quite clear that you had an irresponsible father in your own life. I'm sorry for that, and it's not your fault...but it's unfortunate that as a result, you think that a father's role is nothing besides being an ATM. Either that or you're just a troll. If I were a father, or a man who wanted to be a father, I'd be even more disgusted than I am at that statement.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:10 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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You're talking about someone else's choices, not the woman's. Women intentionally seek out guys that aren't "nice".
What a load of cr*p.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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The % of babies born out of wedlock varies widely from income and ethnic groups.

Blacks have the highest % of their babies born out of wedlock, at around 70%.

Hispanics have about 50% of their babies born out of wedlock.

Among non-Hispanic whites, the figure is 28% and among Asians, around 15%.

According to the Virginia Project, high income people have 6% of their babies born out of wedlock, middle class families have about 25-30% of their babies out of wedlock and low income people have about 44% born out of wedlock.
But more women are choosing for single motherhood, so they could raise their kids into a woman's perspective.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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But more women are choosing for single motherhood, so they could raise their kids into a woman's perspective.
Yeah because raising a child on your own is soooooooooooo easy! Do you really think women choose "single motherhood"? More often than not they have no choice but to raise their children on their own because the father is nowhere to be found. Let me guess, it's the woman's fault too for not "choosing" a better man?!

And enlighten me on why raising kids into a "man's perspective" is much better?

My dad was the one always telling me to work on my education and have a career.

What the heck is your point?
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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Yeah because raising a child on your own is soooooooooooo easy! Do you really think women choose "single motherhood"? More often than not they have no choice but to raise their children on their own because the father is nowhere to be found. Let me guess, it's the woman's fault too for not "choosing" a better man?!

And enlighten me on why raising kids into a "man's perspective" is much better?

My dad was the one always telling me to work on my education and have a career.

What the heck is your point?
If kids are raised by the father, they will think mainstream and have less biased thoughts.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:15 PM
 
Location: London
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Yeah because raising a child on your own is soooooooooooo easy!

And enlighten me on why raising kids into a "man's perspective" is much better?

My dad was the one always telling me to work on my education and have a career.

What the heck is your point?
Ditto. If it were only my mom around, I'd be as much of a misogynist as some of the posters hereā€”perhaps even more of one!
According to guys like him, most women choose to be struggling single mothers. Just like women choose to be raped. Hell, they probably snap their fingers to get pregnant, just for the sheer joy of getting an abortion!
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:15 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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If kids are raised by the father, they will think mainstream and have less biased thoughts.
You are so far from reality. It's funny.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:16 PM
 
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But more women are choosing for single motherhood, so they could raise their kids into a woman's perspective.
I know and that isn't a good thing. Children need a mother and a father and preferably have them be married together. Some people just don't realize that, they do what they want, not what's best for their children.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: London
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I know and that isn't a good thing. Children need a mother and a father and preferably have them be married together. Some people just don't realize that, they do what they want, not what's best for their children.
Precisely, and that's why some fathers don't take responsibility and run when their girlfriends/wives/partners get pregnant. They're selfish and fear fatherhood.
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