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This poor unfortunate poster simply refuses to quote anything from the video to support his position. Anyone who watches the video will understand why.
This poster dismisses any evidence that proves her wrong as made up, anyone who questions her as a paid shill, and she believes black helicopters are following her. In short this poster is troubled.
They are describing explosions in the lobby... BEFORE... the planes hit the building...
No, they are not. I watched the video you posted, for one, and for another I was in the north tower myself so I know what you are trying to sell here is simply not true.
You aren't even providing enough information. For example, what tower were they in? It is possible they ran down the stairs in One, saw the lobby, and then the other plane hit Two, but none of this information is provided in the video.
Yes, I know, this is the point where you claim I am a paid shill/work for the CIA. I'll save you the trouble.
No, they are not. I watched the video you posted, for one, and for another I was in the north tower myself so I know what you are trying to sell here is simply not true.
You aren't even providing enough information. For example, what tower were they in? It is possible they ran down the stairs in One, saw the lobby, and then the other plane hit Two, but none of this information is provided in the video.
Yes, I know, this is the point where you claim I am a paid shill/work for the CIA. I'll save you the trouble.
The ABC news reporter says they were in the first building... ... The women clearly mention that the lobby was completely destroyed ... BEFORE... the planes hit...
The ABC news reporter says they were in the first building... ... The women clearly mention that the lobby was completely destroyed ... BEFORE... the planes hit...
Keep shill-ing away babe...
The woman says, "I believe the bomb hit the lobby first in the first couple of seconds and then the first plane hit."
Do you not understand that this is what she is saying she believed must have happened? Do you not understand that she is trying to figure out why the lobby was destroyed when a plane had hit so far above? WE KNOW THAT THE JET FUEL SHOT DOWN THE ELEVATOR SHAFTS AND THE FIREBALLS FLEW THROUGH THE LOBBY AND OUT INTO THE CONCOURSE. THERE IS NO DISPUTE ABOUT THAT. NO QUESTION.THERE ARE MANY LIVING WITNESSES TO THIS.
But those ladies didn't know this right after they got out of the building, did they. You have to think.
The woman says, "I believe the bomb hit the lobby first in the first couple of seconds and then the first plane hit."
Do you not understand that this is what she is saying she believed must have happened? Do you not understand that she is trying to figure out why the lobby was destroyed when a plane had hit so far above? WE KNOW THAT THE JET FUEL SHOT DOWN THE ELEVATOR SHAFTS AND THE FIREBALLS FLEW THROUGH THE LOBBY AND OUT INTO THE CONCOURSE. THERE IS NO DISPUTE ABOUT THAT. NO QUESTION.THERE ARE MANY LIVING WITNESSES TO THIS.
But those ladies didn't know this right after they got out of the building, did they. You have to think.
The planes had not even hit yet... for the lobby to be destroyed... Sorry babe... You're the one who needs to think...
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
The ABC news reporter says they were in the first building... ... The women clearly mention that the lobby was completely destroyed ... BEFORE... the planes hit...
Keep shill-ing away babe...
We all know she said no such thing, even you know. I have asked you repeatedly for you to type the words she said that leads you to this conclusion, yet you refuse. Why? Because she never said such a thing. Ok, typing may be too hard for you, give us the time on the video we should go to, to hear her say she was in the lobby before the plane hit.
I think it is instructive for all witnessing this exchange. The Truthers are clearly disturbed individuals. I don't think they are malicious, I think they are truly crazy. I urge everyone to review the link we have been presented with, and you will see the depth of their pathology.
There may be a chemical explanation for this behavior.
"Conspiracy theories exist on a spectrum from mild suspicion to full-on paranoia, and brain chemistry may play a role. Dopamine rewards us for noting patterns and finding meaning in sometimes-insignificant events. It's long been known that schizophrenics overproduce dopamine. "The earliest stages of delusion are characterized by an overabundance of meaningful coincidences," explain Paul D. Morrison and R.M. Murray of the Institute of Psychiatry at Kings College London. "Jumping to conclusions" is a common reasoning style among the paranoid, find Daniel Freeman and his colleagues, also at the Institute of Psychiatry."
They are both on the same team when it comes to tanking the economy...
Not quite.
The economic downturn that happened in the last six months of Bush's second term can be directly attributed to policies established many years prior, by Democrat Jimmy Carter, and greatly expanded by Democrat Bill Clinton.
These policies were known as the "Community Reinvestment Act", and forced banks to make loans in poor local neighborhoods to applicants who did not have the income or means to qualify. In fact, the loans were termed "no qual", as banks didn't even ask for qualifying information. They weren't allowed to.
These policies were set because of the Democrat Party's belief that a person has a "right" to home ownership (next, we will be claiming that a person has a "right" to an automobile — oh, wait, I think we already do that, since we have subsidized the purchase of new cars under the Obama administration).
But Obama has willfully and purposfully tanked the economy. It's the Cloward and Piven strategy at work, and anyone who still doubts this is incredibly naive.
Obama is a Marxist and socialist, by his actions and his words. He said he was going to "fundamentally transform the United States of America", and that is exactly what he is doing. What we see happening to our economy is by design, and it is Obama's doing, nobody elses. You cannot blame it on Bush. It has been Obama's policies that have gotten us here.
There has been nothing done that would stimulate and grow the economy, and everything done to destroy it: Drilling ban (overturned by a judge, but ignored by this administration) resulting in thousands of job losses, Obamacare (declared void by at least one judge, but still being implemented by the administration), the take over of two auto manufacturers and the shutting down of hundreds of dealerships, resulting in massive job losses and putting business owners out of business.
No part of the poor economy that has been in the tank for the last two and one half years can be attributable to George W. Bush. Obama and the Democrats own it entirely.
Let's put the blame where it belongs---on the people who planned the 9/11 tragedy and flew the planes into the Twin Towers.
Exactly! While there were a lot of things that should have alerted us, such as Muslim students learning to fly jumbo jets but not interested in learning to land for example, and the intellegence we already had concerning the use of commercial airliners flying into buildings (and this during the Clinton administration), ultimately it is those who carried it out who are to blame.
What this thread shows is how many conspiracy theorists we have! The lunatic fringe!
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