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Old 09-30-2011, 07:21 AM
 
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abandon all hope, my friend
There certainly seems to be a lot of posters making comments without even reading the article.

And they all seem to be making anti-gay comments as well. Nothing new from the anti-gay peanut gallery.

 
Old 09-30-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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Very good point. Gender switching should be limited to adults only. Done too soon could result in irreversible damage.
Which is exactly what these parents are doing. They are buying Tammy time so that she can choose which gender she wants to switch to later on.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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And if any major medical or psychological organization in the modern world dared to speak the truth they would get attacked by the rabid pro-gay community. Just look at how relatively small groups like Target or Chik-fil-A have been attacked by the pro-gay community for simple statements that didn't 100% support their perverted agenda. Imagine if the AMA came out and announced that they were reversing their opinion again and labeled homosexuality a mental disorder like they have in the past... like many major medical and psychological organization had in the past. The gay community would literally be looking for blood in the streets... ironically they would act like people with mental disorders.
Thanks for revealing that all your false "sympathy for homosexuals" posts were complete lies.

If you ever bothered to put aside your bigotry and educate yourself, you'd find that there are over 50 years of studies showing that homosexuality is not a mental illness. Why would the AMA or any professional health organization "reverse their opinion" about homosexuality against all the evidence? Are you one of those gullible people who believes the conspiracy theory that the APA removed homosexuality from the DSM only because of gay activists and without any empirical evidence for the decision? I've read that revisionist nonsense on many anti-gay websites.

As for your other comments:

Just look at how the anti-gay crowd rabidly attack companies or anyone else who doesn't support their bigoted anti-gay agenda. Look at how they spread lies and misinformation to vilify gay people and to support discrimination against gay people.

Are you saying gay people and educated straight people shouldn't fight back against this?

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Old 09-30-2011, 07:53 AM
 
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If this child said she was a girl from age three and threatened to cut off her penis, I doubt she's going to "change her mind" a few years down the line. I'm calling her "she" because if that is not an attempt at showing she is psychologically female, then I don't know what is. She deserves to be called "she".

People think transfolk just "change" cause they hope and wish it's a phase. But it's not. Gender identity is not a phase. It's not like being a punk or a jock in HS. It's not like this kid was goth for a year or two and wanted a tattoo. She's been wanting the matching body to her brain since she was three--since before she could even talk!

Honestly, I think not respecting her wishes would be abusive. I don't think a case gets any clearer than this. If there was at least a little more gray area, I would understand holding off. But this child seems in every way to make it clear that she is meant to be female and so as a parent, I would want to support my child in being who she is.

Horse crap! Males start producing fairly large amounts testosterone at about 2 months. This permanently hardwires their brain and causes certain parts of the male brain to outgrow their female counterparts. Any person even vaguely familiar with characteristics of human gender differences can easily spot a man in drag whether surgically altered or not. These differences are not psychobabble, they have been documented and proven falsifiable (that's an actual scientific term not used by the psychiatric cult). This may come as a shock but gay men still think like men and gay women still think like women because they are quite simply wired that way.

The average kid between the age of 4-10 goes through many phases of identifying and thinking they are all sorts of things from Aquaman to Willy Wonka. Kids have vivid imaginations. Now we have some profiteering psychiatric "professionals" willing to exploit a couple of frustrated women who've managed, whether purposely or not, to convince a developmentally challenged 11-year-old he's a chick. Gimme a break!

This isn't about gay, it's about two nutty cat-ladies who happen to be gay that have found an orphan to play with.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 07:53 AM
 
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Really?

How many of you have read this?

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-american.html
What point are you trying to make? That the anti-gay crowd have a habit of creating pathetically obvious strawman arguments they can tear down? Nothing new about that.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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No. People who post stuff like this are sad and disturbing.

Honestly, though, I don't agree with this kind of surgery (or any elective surgery) on a kid this young. When he can consent for himself and is an adult, he can decide about his gender, expressing it physically, etc.
They're not giving Tammy surgery yet! They are specifically giving her a non-surgical treatment that will allow her to decide for herself what kind of surgery she wants (if any) when she's older.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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They're not giving Tammy surgery yet! They are specifically giving her a non-surgical treatment that will allow her to decide for herself what kind of surgery she wants (if any) when she's older.
I think you mean the surgery "he" wants when "he" is older.

the bottom line is that this child is and can be influenced very easily and it is obvious that they are interfering with the natural flow and cycle of the human body at this point which is their decision. They are playing with a little boy's life here and that is just plain wrong.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Horse crap! Males start producing fairly large amounts testosterone at about 2 months. This permanently hardwires their brain and causes certain parts of the male brain to outgrow their female counterparts. Any person even vaguely familiar with characteristics of human gender differences can easily spot a man in drag whether surgically altered or not. These differences are not psychobabble, they have been documented and proven falsifiable (that's an actual scientific term not used by the psychiatric cult). This may come as a shock but gay men still think like men and gay women still think like women because they are quite simply wired that way.

The average kid between the age of 4-10 goes through many phases of identifying and thinking they are all sorts of things from Aquaman to Willy Wonka. Kids have vivid imaginations. Now we have some profiteering psychiatric "professionals" willing to exploit a couple of frustrated women who've managed, whether purposely or not, to convince a developmentally challenged 11-year-old he's a chick. Gimme a break!

This isn't about gay, it's about two nutty cat-ladies who happen to be gay that have found an orphan to play with.

Again:

Gender Identity Disorder has nothing to do with sexuality.

And it's been proven, by showing in the brainwaves. MTF have brainwaves typical to females, and FTM have brainwaves typical to male.

GID is a real and serious disorder.

However, since this doesn't fit into people's black and white idiotic worldview, they'll discount all research into it because "OMG IT WAS PROPAGATED BY TEH GAYZ", even though such claims are idiotically wrong.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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Horse crap! Males start producing fairly large amounts testosterone at about 2 months. This permanently hardwires their brain and causes certain parts of the male brain to outgrow their female counterparts. Any person even vaguely familiar with characteristics of human gender differences can easily spot a man in drag whether surgically altered or not. These differences are not psychobabble, they have been documented and proven falsifiable (that's an actual scientific term not used by the psychiatric cult). This may come as a shock but gay men still think like men and gay women still think like women because they are quite simply wired that way.

The average kid between the age of 4-10 goes through many phases of identifying and thinking they are all sorts of things from Aquaman to Willy Wonka. Kids have vivid imaginations. Now we have some profiteering psychiatric "professionals" willing to exploit a couple of frustrated women who've managed, whether purposely or not, to convince a developmentally challenged 11-year-old he's a chick. Gimme a break!

This isn't about gay, it's about two nutty cat-ladies who happen to be gay that have found an orphan to play with.
She has consistently felt female from at least age 3 until age 11. Hardly a "Willy Wonka" phase.

Also your claim that anyone can tell a transwoman from a bio-woman is not true. Check out Raci in this video:


Transgeneration, Episode One, Part Two - YouTube

Also notice how they all talk about struggling with these feelings through their entire childhood. Not for a year or two. They had these feelings their whole life and are in college and are still trans.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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They're not giving Tammy surgery yet! They are specifically giving her a non-surgical treatment that will allow her to decide for herself what kind of surgery she wants (if any) when she's older.
I have a doubt though: doesn't the fact that they're artificially delaying the onset of puberty (which results in physical and mental changes of all sorts, including increased maturity) have as a natural consequence the boy/girl not being fully able to form an opinion?
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