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Old 10-17-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
What problem? I never said giving money to politicians or a particular political ideology was a problem. Only the parasites who want to spend other people's money consider it a problem. I do not.



Money has always been part of politics. There is no escaping that reality. According to the Supreme Court, it is indeed protected speech. See Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1 (1976) and Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. _ (2010).

You do not have to agree with the people's right to free speech, but as long as you stay in the US it is the Supreme Law of the Land so you had better get use to it.
We're talking about two different things. You're saying that folks should be allowed to throw their candidate $100 or so if they want them elected. Fine.

There should be limits though.

Just like when you give a government employee a gift of $24.99 it's not a problem. Spend $25 or more, and it's bribery.

Why doesn't the same rule apply to those who can ACTUALLY BE BOUGHT?
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Your "feeling" would violate my First Amendment rights.
how??

there should NOT be ANY monitary contributions for ANY source....

your first amendment right are stand fast ..go SPEAK for that person

money is not a freedom of SPEACH
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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depends on the republican...if he/she is a PROGRESSIVE liberal in republican clothes (like bush)...no

my feeling,,, is there should be NO CONTRIBUTIONS what so ever,, not from corps, not from unions, not from individuals....give the two candidate an even amount of taxpayer funded monies, and let them duke it out on THEIR MERITS....not on the liberal "we have better hair" and "we have more money" garbage

AMEN to that. That's what we're talking about--money out of both sides, and let people stand on their merits. When they get in, the only support they owe are to the constituents who voted for them--not to who ever wrote them the biggest check. That's how it's supposed to work, and we've completely lost our way.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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We're talking about two different things. You're saying that folks should be allowed to throw their candidate $100 or so if they want them elected. Fine.

There should be limits though.

Just like when you give a government employee a gift of $24.99 it's not a problem. Spend $25 or more, and it's bribery.

Why doesn't the same rule apply to those who can ACTUALLY BE BOUGHT?
Why would you want to limit my free speech? I should be able to give as much money as I desire to any politician and/or any PAC. It is my money, and how I spend it is entirely up to me.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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More excuses. Who do you think will "clean it up"?
I think if public pressure builds to the point where it gets cleaned up or they lose their job, you might be surprised who gets behind this. The elections are a year away--talk to me in November 2012. This whole thing is just beginning....
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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how??

there should NOT be ANY monitary contributions for ANY source....

your first amendment right are stand fast ..go SPEAK for that person

money is not a freedom of SPEACH
Money in the form of political contributions is free speech. So sayeth the Supreme Court, on more than one occassion.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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Obama takes the most money from Wall Street, yet there is shockingly little criticism from the Fleabaggers.
"Don't hate the player, hate the game"
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:20 PM
 
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Why would you want to limit my free speech? I should be able to give as much money as I desire to any politician and/or any PAC. It is my money, and how I spend it is entirely up to me.
The next time you get pulled over, exercise your right to free speech, thank the cop for his service, and being so dutiful by giving him $500.

Just make sure you give a few thousand to a friend so they can bail you out.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The next time you get pulled over, exercise your right to free speech, thank the cop for his service, and being so dutiful by giving him $500.

Just make sure you give a few thousand to a friend so they can bail you out.
Are you trolling or being deliberately stupid? Since when is a COP a politician or a PAC?
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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Why would you want to limit my free speech? I should be able to give as much money as I desire to any politician and/or any PAC. It is my money, and how I spend it is entirely up to me.
Bribes are considered free speech now?
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