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Old 10-17-2011, 01:08 PM
 
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That's kinda the point Glitch. It's not illegal, but morally it's wrong. Influencing the law of the land with your wallet, is wrong.

Anywhere else you would be arrested. Paying off politicians to get a contract, bribing a police officer, etc, you would go to jail.

Only in Washington do they call it "campaign contributions" and "lobbying" and get away with it.
When you get big enough like our giant corporate friends, you realize how important it is to maintain the legality of campaign contributions: crony capitalism.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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According to the Supreme Court political contributions by individuals or corporations is not a criminal activity. If you do not like their decision then move to another country where free speech is considered a criminal activity, like maybe Canada.
The Supreme Court is corrupt, they are bought and paid for too.
And no I will stay and fight to liberate my country from the fascist pigs.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:29 PM
 
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That's kinda the point Glitch. It's not illegal, but morally it's wrong. Influencing the law of the land with your wallet, is wrong.

Anywhere else you would be arrested. Paying off politicians to get a contract, bribing a police officer, etc, you would go to jail.

Only in Washington do they call it "campaign contributions" and "lobbying" and get away with it.
Have you lost your mind? Anywhere else you would be arrested? What world are you from. Look around and see how other countries operate. Ever heard of dictators? LOL. If you think bribes are not a big part of most governments throughout the world then your are so far lost there is no return. Most don't bribe or influence they just kill the opposition.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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The Supreme Court is corrupt, they are bought and paid for too.
And no I will stay and fight to liberate my country from the fascist pigs.
i think i'll stick around too, and help free this country up a little bit!
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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According to the Supreme Court political contributions by individuals or corporations is not a criminal activity. If you do not like their decision then move to another country where free speech is considered a criminal activity, like maybe Canada.
That's why the way to fix it is a constitutional amendment. The Supreme Court's job is to interpret the constitution--not to just pull rulings out of their sleeves. When problems like this come up, we've amended it in the past--27 different times.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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Have you lost your mind? Anywhere else you would be arrested? What world are you from. Look around and see how other countries operate. Ever heard of dictators? LOL. If you think bribes are not a big part of most governments throughout the world then your are so far lost there is no return. Most don't bribe or influence they just kill the opposition.
That's just it--we're America. We're not supposed to run our government like a third world banana republic, and I hope you're not suggesting that we start. If there's a problem, we need to fix it through LAW. A constitutional amendment prohibiting campaign contributions is a start--publicly fund them, let people stand or fall on the strength of their ideas and their track record, and then they owe special interests NOTHING when they get to DC. The only people they'd be obligated to are the voters who put them in office.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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A way has been provided to fix it. Not running around screaming about evil rich people either. Vote out the crooks and install new folks in their place. The tea party actually did that and were vilified by the left because they were told to do so. There is the main problem. Idiots voting. The founders didn't expect mind numbed fools to run rampant across the country to vote for hope and change BS. I guess that is their main fault.

Good luck passing an amendment. To do that you would need to vote in folks who agree. Running around Wall street smoking pot and screaming how the rich are evil isn't doing anything. Meanwhile the president is running around stoking the class warfare fire by the day. People are too stupid to realize it.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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A way has been provided to fix it. Not running around screaming about evil rich people either. Vote out the crooks and install new folks in their place. The tea party actually did that and were vilified by the left because they were told to do so. There is the main problem. Idiots voting. The founders didn't expect mind numbed fools to run rampant across the country to vote for hope and change BS. I guess that is their main fault.

Good luck passing an amendment. To do that you would need to vote in folks who agree. Running around Wall street smoking pot and screaming how the rich are evil isn't doing anything. Meanwhile the president is running around stoking the class warfare fire by the day. People are too stupid to realize it.
wait, you're saying that the Tea Party, as it stands right now, isn't bought and paid for?? that's a laugh...Ron Paul would be the closest i could imagine, and he's kind of inching away from what the Tea Party has morphed into.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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See what I mean??
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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A way has been provided to fix it. Not running around screaming about evil rich people either. Vote out the crooks and install new folks in their place. The tea party actually did that and were vilified by the left because they were told to do so. There is the main problem. Idiots voting. The founders didn't expect mind numbed fools to run rampant across the country to vote for hope and change BS. I guess that is their main fault.

Good luck passing an amendment. To do that you would need to vote in folks who agree. Running around Wall street smoking pot and screaming how the rich are evil isn't doing anything. Meanwhile the president is running around stoking the class warfare fire by the day. People are too stupid to realize it.
The tea party was not a grass roots movement if was funded by Koch and others. The problem is the one with the most campaign donations wins, and who has the money for campaign donations...banks and Corporate America. So that we get around this problem with Campaign contributions and political advertising being free speech protectd, why not start a grass roots movement for a constitutional amendment that makes campaign contributions larger than $100 per individual illegal and no PAC's or anything of that nature.

That is what we need.
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