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Old 10-17-2011, 12:33 PM
 
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Are you trolling or being deliberately stupid? Since when is a COP a politician or a PAC?
Ahh, another head-smacker resorting to personal insults when their warped sense of reality is called into question. Better stop smacking that brain basket. I'd cherish the cells you have left if I were you.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Bribes are considered free speech now?
Political contributions are, and have been, a protected form of free speech under the First Amendment.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:35 PM
 
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Free speech ain't free

Last edited by postingMan; 10-17-2011 at 12:37 PM.. Reason: changed the isn't to ain't
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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if this is the root of all our problems, then how to we fix this?

would this not be the one issue we can all agree on? and if so, how can we come together to fight this issue??
The simple truth of the matter is the United States is now a Fascist political system, where the corporations and the government work in collusion to enslave and exploit the people.
Whether it is by taxes, by trade, or by legislation, the people are being robbed of their money, their property, and their political power as citizens.
We need to return to being a Representative Republic, and cut the ties between government and corporations.
The Constitution was written to ensure the peoples freedom and political power and the people have turned their backs on it, and allowed it to be perverted and ignored. We will never return to where we once were without returning to the principals of the Constitution.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Political contributions are, and have been, a protected form of free speech under the First Amendment.
Do not try to hide the criminal activity of bribing politicians with massive corporate funds by using the First Amendment.
When the United States was first formed, corporations were only allowed to be chartered for a period of 4 years because the forefathers knew that corporations were as evil as central banks. It is banking and corporations, that have ruined this country and they need to come down.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Do not try to hide the criminal activity of bribing politicians with massive corporate funds by using the First Amendment.
When the United States was first formed, corporations were only allowed to be chartered for a period of 4 years because the forefathers knew that corporations were as evil as central banks. It is banking and corporations, that have ruined this country and they need to come down.
According to the Supreme Court political contributions by individuals or corporations is not a criminal activity. If you do not like their decision then move to another country where free speech is considered a criminal activity, like maybe Canada.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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According to the Supreme Court political contributions by individuals or corporations is not a criminal activity. If you do not like their decision then move to another country where free speech is considered a criminal activity, like maybe Canada.
i see your point. so, everything is just fine the way it is then? just doesn't seem like it...my bad.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:00 PM
 
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According to the Supreme Court political contributions by individuals or corporations is not a criminal activity. If you do not like their decision then move to another country where free speech is considered a criminal activity, like maybe Canada.
That's kinda the point Glitch. It's not illegal, but morally it's wrong. Influencing the law of the land with your wallet, is wrong.

Anywhere else you would be arrested. Paying off politicians to get a contract, bribing a police officer, etc, you would go to jail.

Only in Washington do they call it "campaign contributions" and "lobbying" and get away with it.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:05 PM
 
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I can agree that MSNBC is the mouthpiece of the enemy of America.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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That's kinda the point Glitch. It's not illegal, but morally it's wrong. Influencing the law of the land with your wallet, is wrong.

Anywhere else you would be arrested. Paying off politicians to get a contract, bribing a police officer, etc, you would go to jail.

Only in Washington do they call it "campaign contributions" and "lobbying" and get away with it.
First, you are not "influencing the law of the land" you are contributing to a politicians campaign or advocating for a particular ideology by giving money to a PAC. How is that wrong?

It is no more "wrong" than casting a vote for a candidate is "wrong." In both cases you are exercising your right to free speech to advocate for a politician or a political agenda with which you happen to agree.
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