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Old 10-30-2011, 03:07 PM
 
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"When Mr. Mora took the promotion to Facility Containment Specialist, Clyde Truex became the primary HVAC mechanic for the ORF. In addition, there was a hiring freeze, which prevented the maintenance unit from hiring a replacement for the vacancy created by Mr. Mora's promotion. This left the ORF short one HVAC mechanic."

“What in God's name is going on, it sound like a jet airplane is going off in my lab.”

"Mr. Raymond had to draw a chart for one of the HVAC mechanics explaining the difference between positive and negative numbers. Specifically, the mechanic didn't seem to understand that -.0025 indicated a more positive airflow pressure than a reading of -.025. In addition, the HVAC mechanic appears to have a problem understanding decimal points."

If you don't know your decimals and fractions, the Government will promote you. Course, it helps if your brother has the power to do that for you.

Those who can, do.

Those who can't, get promoted.

http://oriol.at/wikileaks/Misc/rocky-mountain-laboratory-investigation-2006.pdf (broken link)
Those who can, get fired.
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Old 10-30-2011, 03:27 PM
 
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Why do you employ IRS agents when the IRS doesn't even have to exist?

Why do you spend billions of dollars on an education system that doesn't work?

Why employ people, and give them lifetime pensions, to recommend Turtle Tunnels? A fourth grader could do that.

Why build a bridge to nowhere?

High speed rail from Orlando to Tampa? You've got to be kidding.


Government is FAT, and it needs to be trimmed. Not with a scalpal, but with an axe.
Take the axe to lobbyist $$$$$$$, and miraculously, budgets will organically fall in line. They aren't free market but demand a defense as if they were.

Firing the cops & military isn't going to lower your taxes. It's going to lower the amount of tax payers, turn USA into wild west charlatanism undermining legitimate commerce more than it already has, and exponentially increase the tax load on the 1%. 99% subsistence farming/ underground economy, 1% finding out their illusion of alchemy turning poop into gold reverts back to the harsh light of reality with inflation/deflation. Rats scrambling... those selling gold bricks have a map for sale where that gold was sold. Trade you a bucket of walnuts for that gold brick. Maybe a lump of coal for winter heat. It's all I feel it's worth.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:05 PM
 
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Federal employees are not inferior to private sector workers. Both type of workers have their place. Not all federal and state employees are pencil pushers. They provide valuable services. Those who make tampons, bread, toilet paper, i-pods are no better than say mail men and those who make sure the water and air in this country is clean.
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:55 AM
 
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Yeah, why does Congressman Ron Paul suggest cutting pay of Congress, that wont impact him!
That is one reason that they will turn on him like a wounded fish during a shark feeding frenzy
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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The FEDERAL department of education is horrid, stop being so dramatic and intentionally misleading...most libertarians and conservatives want either home schooling or a local/state run department of education.
I will be honest with you I'm not really sure what they are suppose to do, but if that moron Bachman wants to get rid of it there must have some positive role. Maybe it just needs to be revamped instead of eliminated
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:06 AM
 
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exactly the average federal employee is a gs06- gs12..making 35k to 75k
I guess you have not heard of the massive rating downsizing and the elimination of certain grades (gs-6/gs-8) in many depts
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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No different than your cut and paste..and my point was to counter your obnoxious yelling of this:



Getting rid of the Department of Education and handing more rights back to the state/local governments has been an concept since at least when Reagan was campaigning.
Come to think of it, it that occurs there would be vast disparities in education depending on who holds the state's purse strings (i.e Gov Perry). Some states that have a high regard for education, would have smarter and better prepared students.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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You've analyzed the government or are you making this up.
If you're making wild claims, where would more/less be needed to meet your requirements?
Where are they actually needed.
Do you not understand that agency employees are not plug & play. They have different rules and regulations (read laws) that govern what they do and how they do it.

You're aware of all of this, right?


Just because they're vets doesn't mean that they can adequately perform their jobs.
Cronyism is alive and well. (Don't get me started)
I've worked with many that can't write a simple sentence with subject verb agreement.
No Colonel Left Behind.
So I guess that a vet who served in the military as a medic is not as qualified to deal with a war vet in a VA setting as a non-vet? You really should not make such broad statements if you do not know the facts
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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I was a contractor for the fed. government for about 20 years. While *you* personally are making about the same as your federal counterpart, in reality, what your company bills the government for you is probably twice what you make. The last contract that I was on billed the government around $78 per hour. This did not include the "fees" that were added on at the end. The $78 was just per man hour charged. Most employees were receiving between $21 and $44 per hour.

But yes, saying that they've reduced the federal workforce seems to be a feather in their cap.

I think that everyone needs to stop looking at the "federal workforce" and the employees and the almost laughable savings we can get my freezing their pay or what not. As if that's really going to fix our ways.

Ignore the employees and look at budgets of every department. Cut budgets. If the budgets are cut and the work dwindles, so will the employees. It will happen. And it will happen across the board to the federal employees as well as the contractor arm of the government. If you constantly look at people versus the overall budget, you're not fixing the problem.

As a federal worker now, we have cut our branch of nine down to six. Most of that was done when we had older workers retire. We didn't back fill. When two others left, my supervisor really, really worked to hire some savvy analysts and now with six people we are able to do the work that nine people did. I won't lie to you--I am balls to walls busy most days and it is exhausting but I enjoy my job and would rather be busy like this than talking about scrapbooking or cooking with my officemates. To just come in and, say, slash a few billets but not cut any programs would be really, really hard and it doesn't make sense. Cut the work if it is unneccessary. If it's not, leave it AND the people.
It is an FTE game.
But, even with budget cuts the work doesn't dwindle.
I've lost 50% of my staff and have taken on 20% (minimum) more work.
Try to figure that out.
I have my priorities now; I just can't do a lot of stuff. It is physically impossible.

My friend's organization just got slashed and they now want an "employee of the week" submission from each organization. What kind of nonsense is that?
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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So I guess that a vet who served in the military as a medic is not as qualified to deal with a war vet in a VA setting as a non-vet? You really should not make such broad statements if you do not know the facts
Well, duh, some do, some don't.
I probably know a few more facts about the fed than you do.
Did I say every vet in every setting?

Talk about broad brush.
And just because someone was a medic doesn't mean that they can communicate at all.
Really, you have to look at the individuals, don't you think?
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