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Look, I admit I made a mistake, but you folks seem to think that 2.65 million taxpayer funded Federal jobs is just fine. State and local employees add to the number of public employees.
You all seem to think that their contribution to society deserves them ultimate healthcare and pensions for life.
OK, a fireman may save a family. IRS agents are paid by taxpayers to take money from them.
Government does not need to be any bigger than what is basically necessary.
The NEA, the EPA.
All a waste of money and a drag on our economy.
Some folks here seem to think that taxpayer funded Federal jobs stimulate economic activity worthy of preservation.
AmTrak employs 19,000 people. The taxpayers are on the hook. AmTrak has lost money since it's inception.
Justify it.
Lobbyist, the airline and other transportation folks have bigger and better ones then Amtrack
The EPA is useless? Have you ever been to China where the middle class drinks arsenic laced water and breathe air with so much pollution that their lungs are turning black and cancer rates are skyrocketing? While Amtrak and NEA can be reformed, why are you purposefully ignoring the sector with the greatest explosion in size in the past decade, the defense and intelligence services complex that has nearly TRIPLED in size? Come to DC and see all the bloat and corruption in this sector for yourself.
He must be one of the Koch brother tea drinkers, since he did not mention the newest creation the TSA
Do you have ANY facts or figures to back that up or is it just an assumption?
Does common sense need to be proven? The EPA (by definition) is responsible for clean air and water. They are the ones that suppose to keep companies from killing us. What do think would happen if the EPA was abolished? the Koch Brothers would polluted our air and waters from the by products of their papermill companies and Lord knows what chemicals are used in the making of dixie cups that are harmful to pregnant woman
most libertarians and conservatives want either home schooling or a local/state run department of education.
FLASH! NEWS ALERT! WE INTERRUPT WITH A SPECIAL NEWS ANNOUNCEMENT!
All public schools in the U.S. are run by local and state departments of education and school boards!
Education is primarily a State and local responsibility in the United States. It is States and communities, as well as public and private organizations of all kinds, that establish schools and colleges, develop curricula, and determine requirements for enrollment and graduation. The structure of education finance in America reflects this predominant State and local role. Of an estimated $1.13 trillion being spent nationwide on education at all levels for school year 2010-2011, a substantial majority will come from State, local, and private sources. This is especially true at the elementary and secondary level, where about 89.2 percent of the funds will come from non-Federal sources.
That means the Federal contribution to elementary and secondary education is about 10.8 percent, which includes funds not only from the Department of Education (ED) but also from other Federal agencies, such as the Department of Health and Human Services' Head Start program and the Department of Agriculture's School Lunch program.
Ah, but you didn't dispute my claim. Across the country the public sector has been shedding jobs and the private sector has been adding jobs. Fact.
Hmmm, a job that pays decent wages and provides benefits verses a min wage gig that can fire you in heartbeat if the manager does not like you.
I guess that I will move to Texas with Rick "the stick" Perry
Does common sense need to be proven? The EPA (by definition) is responsible for clean air and water. They are the ones that suppose to keep companies from killing us. What do think would happen if the EPA was abolished? the Koch Brothers would polluted our air and waters from the by products of their papermill companies and Lord knows what chemicals are used in the making of dixie cups that are harmful to pregnant woman
Read my other posts in this thread, I've already explained this...PLUS:
"They are the ones that are supposed to keep companies from killing us." is a pretty pathetic statement. YOU are responsible for yourself, I always read labels and research the food and products I buy. It takes a bare bones set of regulations to require honest and complete ingredient lists for products, and there are only so many chemicals and bad things out there to ban...once the basics are covered then we should be good. Stop relying on someone else (ie. the government) to hold your hand every step of the way.
Do you include contractors who are partly paid by the Feds, for example roadway workers? Do you want to shrink the Pentagon to a Triangle? (and this wouldn't even cut half). Get rid of the border patrol? Stop maintaining the roads in even their crumbling condition? Even if all the laid off could find other jobs, it would hurt YOU.
FLASH! NEWS ALERT! WE INTERRUPT WITH A SPECIAL NEWS ANNOUNCEMENT!
All public schools in the U.S. are run by local and state departments of education and school boards!
Education is primarily a State and local responsibility in the United States. It is States and communities, as well as public and private organizations of all kinds, that establish schools and colleges, develop curricula, and determine requirements for enrollment and graduation. The structure of education finance in America reflects this predominant State and local role. Of an estimated $1.13 trillion being spent nationwide on education at all levels for school year 2010-2011, a substantial majority will come from State, local, and private sources. This is especially true at the elementary and secondary level, where about 89.2 percent of the funds will come from non-Federal sources.
That means the Federal contribution to elementary and secondary education is about 10.8 percent, which includes funds not only from the Department of Education (ED) but also from other Federal agencies, such as the Department of Health and Human Services' Head Start program and the Department of Agriculture's School Lunch program.
The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (NCLB)[1][2] is a United States Act of Congress concerning the education of children in public schools.
NCLB was originally proposed by the administration of George W. Bush immediately after he took office.[3] The bill received overwhelming bipartisan support in Congress.[4]
No he is not correct. The Obama admin added tens of thousands plus of government jobs over the last couple of years while the private sector has been hemorrhaging 10 times that in the same period. Where do you guys get your propaganda, errr, information from?
Actually, President Obama has been hiring more people, but here is the catch they are veterans of the stupid wars that came back jobless. All that he did was something the past presidents did not do....Hire more veterans to work in security positions and the Veteran hospitals were they are needed.
Regardless, the Federal obligation should be cut by 75%.
This doesn't make sense, your thread title implied 5 million was your target. Now that you find that it is already way under 5 million you are just going with a general 75%?
It makes it seem like nothing more than a pointless rant as opposed to any sense of well thought out course of action that is calculated to show tangible results.
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