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Old 12-06-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Thanks for the link. The comments below the snippet of the story were hilarious. Let's let Charles speak:

[SIZE=5]Charles[/SIZE] says:
December 6, 2011 at 9:33 am
Wrong , We The People need US Constitutional law enforced and not wait tile the 2012 election to rid ourselves of this fraud obama . You cannot have a legal election when the current administration is an illegal one . Obama knows he will not be able to run in 2012 and is currently trying to create unrest so he can declare marshal law and suspend the 2012 election.

Obama: Getting ready to declare Marshal law.

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Old 12-06-2011, 07:43 PM
 
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link please.
Adopted Orphans Citizenship Act and Antiatrocity Alien Deportation Act

To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to confer United States citizenship automatically and retroactively on certain foreign-born children adopted by citizens of the United States.

The same is true when they retroactively made Panama Canal zone a us territory and its inhabitants citizens. (i.e. McCain)
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Dear God,

Threads like this test my faith. I am stronger for it.

Thank you.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:43 PM
 
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Thats not true.. When you adopt someone outside the country they automatically become a citizen, retroactive till their birth.
They become a citizen. Through naturalization. And no, they don't become automatically a citizen. There is a ton of paperwork (you will need a lawyer to help you weed through it, but with a good one, it can be done rather quickly) to get the child through the naturalization process.

In your willing to adopt an international born child, you have to make a declaration to the the INA that you will seek citizenship on part of your child.


You know how I know you don't what you are talking about? My cousin just went through this. Her child isn't a US Citizen, despite adopting him nearly a year ago. She still has paper work to fill out, but she's close to making her child a US Citizen. And he would be a NATURALIZED citizen.

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The law was changed in 2000 to not require them to be nationalized
Notice that you didn't link to the law that says this.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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No, Obama is not wrong. It's just that you don't understand what Jurisdiction means.
I very well understand what jursidiction means, and how other nations can have jurisdiction among some individuals living here.. Why dont you?
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:47 PM
 
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They become a citizen. Through naturalization. And no, they don't become automatically a citizen. There is a ton of paperwork (you will need a lawyer to help you weed through it, but with a good one, it can be done rather quickly) to get the child through the naturalization process.

In your willing to adopt an international born child, you have to make a declaration to the the INA that you will seek citizenship on part of your child.

You know how I know you don't what you are talking about? My cousin just went through this. Her child isn't a US Citizen, despite adopting him nearly a year ago. She still has paper work to fill out, but she's close to making her child a US Citizen. And he would be a NATURALIZED citizen.

Notice that you didn't link to the law that says this.
YOU ARE WRONG

H.R. 2883 would amend the current law regarding the acquisition of citizenship by the adopted children of U.S. citizen parents. The bill would automatically extend citizenship to the adopted alien child of a U.S. citizen in the following circumstances:

You dont know what the hell you are talking about. Call your cousin and maybe they can educate you on something

The retroactive conferral of citizenship on adopted children would create differences between adopted children and other persons who acquire U.S. citizenship by naturalization.

They are NOT the same.. its ANOTHER CLASS of citizens

http://commdocs.house.gov/committees...hju64398_0.htm

And signed into law 10/30/2000 http://www.vkblaw.com/news/sevenhundrednineteen.htm
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:48 PM
 
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Obama could be excluded from the 2012 ballot....


Supreme Court Rules Obama Ineligible!*|*Front Porch Politics (http://www.frontporchpolitics.com/2011/12/supreme-court-rules-obama-ineligible/ - broken link)
Keep dreaming. It's racist for you to suggest that SCOTUS is hearing this case.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:49 PM
 
Location: NC
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I very well understand what jursidiction means, and how other nations can have jurisdiction among some individuals living here.. Why dont you?
No, it is pretty obvious you really don't. Just off the way you phrased the above quote. Just because one place has jurisdiction doesn't mean other places don't. Thus why we have forum shopping.

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Old 12-06-2011, 07:50 PM
 
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Adopted Orphans Citizenship Act and Antiatrocity Alien Deportation Act

To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to confer United States citizenship automatically and retroactively on certain foreign-born children adopted by citizens of the United States.

The same is true when they retroactively made Panama Canal zone a us territory and its inhabitants citizens. (i.e. McCain)

finally you link to it, and you failedto read the bill, only parts of it (that you think apply):

Information Center - Child Citizenship Act (http://eaci.com/info-center/child-citizenship.htm - broken link)

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Is Automatic Citizenship Provided for Children (Including Adopted Children) Born and Residing Outside the United States?

In order for a child born and residing outside the United States to acquire citizenship, the United States citizen parent must apply for naturalization on behalf of the child. The naturalization process for such a child cannot take place overseas. The child will need to be in the United State temporarily to complete naturalization processing and take the oath of allegiance.

To be eligible, a child must meet the definition of “child” for naturalization purposes under immigration law3, and must also meet the following requirements:

  • The child has at least one U.S. citizen parent (by birth or naturalization);
  • The U.S. citizen parent has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14 – or the United States citizen parent has a citizen parent who has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14;
  • The child is under 18 years of age;
  • The child is residing outside the United States in the legal and physical custody of the United States citizen parent;
  • The child is temporarily present in the United States – having entered the United States lawfully and maintaining lawful status in the United States;
  • An adopted child meets the requirements applicable to adopted children under immigration law4;
  • If the naturalization application is approved, the child must take the same oath of allegiance administered to adult naturalization applicants. If the child is too young to understand the oath, INS may waive the oath requirement.
The child would be a NATURALIZED citizen.

the child would STILL need to go through the motions of nautralization. A 2 year old cannot be able to take the oath, they'd have to wait until they are able to speak on their own to do so. So no, they do not become automatic citizens when they are adopted.

A child who is adopted at an older age, also doesn't become an automatic citizen. he/She still must go through the naturalization process.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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Instead of pursuing such nonsense, how about nominating an electable candidate?
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