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I just would like to see a concerted effort to address some IMPORTANT things in this world. A sustainable source of fuel, the deficit, the problem of consumerism and Chinese labor, environmental clean-up/protection, preserving the endangered species, better education for our children....you know, the future? Not spend every waking moment trying to be separatist and flaunt some of your more absurd proclivities. The LGBT community SHOULD want to set an example for children that your sexual orientation is irrelevant to your membership in society. There are gay people in every profession that are not trying to alienate people by asserting their queerness just for the sake of giving heterosexuals the proverbial raspberry. Gays are separatist, there has to be a gay edition of everything, if we have a right to something they feel 10x more entitled. Seems rather selfish....why don't you put all that effort into not giving impressionable young people the idea that your world is all about twirling around in outlandish get ups with rainbow flags. You celebrate, almost relish being the village idiots and want to spread the glitter of asinine behavior over all of us. There comes a time when marginalized groups in society that have been suppressed, denied rights, disenfranchised have to LOOK hard at themselves and ask to what extent do we contribute to our own detriment by our words and actions? The symbolism and nomenclature you have created for LGBT identifying persons and simultaneously splashed all over society as a whole is akin to me inviting the kids next door over to watch our homemade porn? T-shirts, key rings, bumper stickers, your egregious theft of the damn rainbow from everybody else....why does this have to be part of the landscape for my family? I wouldn't have sex with my husband in front of my kids, but you do it all the time and it is not gay...it's disgusting! Whenever someone excercises their constitutional rights (the same rights that have you running through the streets in pairs wearing wedding dresses) to NOT AGREE with any part of homosexuality, GAYS are up in arms to prove that their numbers are bigger than ours and they have the consumer power to shut down the world. Seems like a waste of all that power to be surfing the net for PNP partners and figuring out ways to have an undetectable viral load...why so secretive if this lifestyle is just as RIGHT and any other?
Who are you talking about?
I dress like any other person. The only rainbow in my house is a picture that my son drew at school.
Separatist? Who is trying to separate who out of society? I'm not fighting to exclude anyone from equal rights granted by law.
It is the "christians" that are trying to exclude us from society.
You might want to get your facts straight before you go off.
Should I judge ALL heteros by some fool who wears a stained wife beater, beats his wife, and swills beer all day?
No.
Maybe you shouldn't judge all homosexuals by the extreme examples either.
Of course I do. But the fact is that the arguments used against it back in the 1960s are largely identical to those used against same-sex marriage today.
So what? Using a similar argument means nothing. Just because society was wrong about a social issue at some time in the past has no relevance today.
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And re: your other attempt at conflating same-sex marriage with bestiality, I can tell the difference between a man and a dog. Can you?
I never conflated same-sex marriage with bestiality. Read my post carefully. I never mentioned sex, so bestiality is not even part of the debate.
And yes, I can tell the difference between a man and a dog. And I can tell the difference between a heterosexual and homosexual. Can you?
Which is exactly what people who are against same-sex marriage are doing--only letting the law fit their very narrow way of living.
Allowing same sex couples to marry would not restrict or in any way change the fact that opposite-sex couples can marry. It would affect your life in no way whatsoever. I honestly can't understand your opposition to it.
I don't hear of any gay people trying to keep straight people from getting married, only some straight people trying to keep gay people from getting married
Not true at all. I've never heard a gay march to support plural marriage.
I'm not out to change anyone's mind about something like this. I realize it's a losing proposition. I just know that salvation is the ultimate subtext for many of these sentiments and it would be more revealing and less disingenuous if that was openly admitted, so that people were not misled into thinking that it's mere disapproval - they need to know that their neighbors, friends, relatives, etc. truly think they are going to hell if they don't change their beliefs, actions, etc. If you are homosexual, you need to know that people such as Dan Cathy think you're bound for hell. People at your local church think that, and neighbors, family, etc. think that. If you are not homosexual, you need to stop and consider the implications of your statements. If everyone spoke more freely about their true motives perhaps there would be some more civility.
So, Christians, please: Speak up and say "you're on you're way to hell" or something like it rather than beating around the bush, talking about "traditional values" and those other backhanded statements. It will prove you to be honest and improve communication. I realize it's poor PR strategy for what you're trying to sell, but it will reveal to everyone what you truly think.
So what? YOU may want to define marriage as requiring consent. But because you place that restriction on marriage does not make it right. Maybe others would not place that restriction on marriage. Consent has not always been required for a heterosexual marriage. Why do you think you get to make the rules? That sounds a little self serving..... everything is OK if we follow YOUR rules.
Why do you consider yourself a part of "the gay community"? You're a person, not a random member of some group.
I think it's best to let people define themselves however they want. The First Amendment includes freedom of association, for those who don't know.
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